R50/53 Torque Wrench help
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Torque Wrench help
Okay, I know this is a bone head question, but, I bought a new wrench and it seems like all I need to do is unlock, screw up or down to a 'base' number, (once the vertical line is set to zero) then using the 1-4 around the edge, screw up or down to line these up to the zero to dial in.
Does this sound correct? That's the way the manual looks to me. I did use it to change my oil and when I torqued down the filter, it seems accurate as it 'clicked' just over, what I would say, was hand tight. I don't have any other experience with torque wrenches, so thought I'd make sure as I'll be replacing the plugs this weekend.
THANKS!
Does this sound correct? That's the way the manual looks to me. I did use it to change my oil and when I torqued down the filter, it seems accurate as it 'clicked' just over, what I would say, was hand tight. I don't have any other experience with torque wrenches, so thought I'd make sure as I'll be replacing the plugs this weekend.
THANKS!
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Here's some additional info:
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]3/8" Drive Neiko Pro Clicker type Torque wrench[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Adjustable from 15-80 ft / pounds in one inch pound increments [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]M[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]easurement: foot pounds, kilogram meters, or Newton meters.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]3/8" Drive Neiko Pro Clicker type Torque wrench[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Adjustable from 15-80 ft / pounds in one inch pound increments [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]M[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]easurement: foot pounds, kilogram meters, or Newton meters.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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Craftsman Digitork
Do you have the 5-80lb model and do you like it. I have an RMW head/cam/header/injector/install coming up very soon and wanted to get a decent torque wrench. Are you pretty happy wih that tool?
Thanks........
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well, these torque wrenches aren't super-accurate mil-spec type. if you had one of those, they'd cost 3-5x as much and since accuracy means life/death, yes, good idea to get it calibrate. most engine builders use that type. for us home mechanics, +/-5% is ok. 72ft/lbs = range of 69-75 actual
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well, these torque wrenches aren't super-accurate mil-spec type. if you had one of those, they'd cost 3-5x as much and since accuracy means life/death, yes, good idea to get it calibrate. most engine builders use that type. for us home mechanics, +/-5% is ok. 72ft/lbs = range of 69-75 actual
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Well, no one answered beemer2002's question, so here ya go:
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
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Thanks Ancient Mariner!
Well, no one answered beemer2002's question, so here ya go:
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
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Well, no one answered beemer2002's question, so here ya go:
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
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Well, no one answered beemer2002's question, so here ya go:
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
Yeah, it looks like you're doing it right. If you want to check, there is a fairly simple method that also gives you an idea of the wrench's accuracy. Clamp the drive end (the part you snap the socket on) in a bench vise with the handle pointing straight up. Set the wrench for a value in the middle of it's range -around 40ft/lbs (it's most accurate in the middle range) and then using a *good* bathroom scale, place the scale against the end of the handle and pull it toward yourself. Watch the scale and listen for the 'click'. They both should coincide around 40. If nothing else, it will give you the confidence that you are setting it correctly. Pull smoothly and slowly -no jerking.
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Zero Torque Wrench after Use
Be certain to zero the torque wrench after use (set to it's lowest setting), this relieves the tension on the internal spring and keeps the accuracy much longer. Keeping it set at your last use's setting (for example 40 ft/lbs) it will over time affect spring tension and thus the torque wrench variance. You may find later your +/- 4% becoming +/-7% or more over time.
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Ancient Mariner,
Thanks for an elegant solution to checking calibration. With respect to Blimey's faux question, does he have a point? A lever allows one to spread work over greater distance so that while the total work is the same, it is not spent as quickly--kind of like walking uphill at an angle instread of straight up. Do I understand the physics correctly?
If so, then it would seem possible that a longer arm could yield a lower torque value than a shorter arm. The longer arm would have to travel farther to get the same cumulative movement/torque/force on the nut.
Or am I conflating cumulative force with torque improperly? Some other error?
Thanks for an elegant solution to checking calibration. With respect to Blimey's faux question, does he have a point? A lever allows one to spread work over greater distance so that while the total work is the same, it is not spent as quickly--kind of like walking uphill at an angle instread of straight up. Do I understand the physics correctly?
If so, then it would seem possible that a longer arm could yield a lower torque value than a shorter arm. The longer arm would have to travel farther to get the same cumulative movement/torque/force on the nut.
Or am I conflating cumulative force with torque improperly? Some other error?
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Be certain to zero the torque wrench after use (set to it's lowest setting), this relieves the tension on the internal spring and keeps the accuracy much longer. Keeping it set at your last use's setting (for example 40 ft/lbs) it will over time affect spring tension and thus the torque wrench variance. You may find later your +/- 4% becoming +/-7% or more over time.
btw beemer, I was a calibration technician in the service. Everything from the mechanical (torque wrenches and such) to electronic (o'scopes, sig generators, test meters, etc.) so most of this is just training and experience.
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Ancient Mariner,
Thanks for an elegant solution to checking calibration. With respect to Blimey's faux question, does he have a point? A lever allows one to spread work over greater distance so that while the total work is the same, it is not spent as quickly--kind of like walking uphill at an angle instread of straight up. Do I understand the physics correctly?
If so, then it would seem possible that a longer arm could yield a lower torque value than a shorter arm. The longer arm would have to travel farther to get the same cumulative movement/torque/force on the nut.
Or am I conflating cumulative force with torque improperly? Some other error?
Thanks for an elegant solution to checking calibration. With respect to Blimey's faux question, does he have a point? A lever allows one to spread work over greater distance so that while the total work is the same, it is not spent as quickly--kind of like walking uphill at an angle instread of straight up. Do I understand the physics correctly?
If so, then it would seem possible that a longer arm could yield a lower torque value than a shorter arm. The longer arm would have to travel farther to get the same cumulative movement/torque/force on the nut.
Or am I conflating cumulative force with torque improperly? Some other error?
Torque is rotational. It's simply the force required to rotate an object around an axis. It's magnitude is the product of the force and the length of the lever arm. Measure 12" from the center of the socket, tape a small wood block at that point on the handle and measure there. Done and done.
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