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Old 07-02-2009 | 08:17 AM
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Somebody please set me straight...

2006 MC automatics were CVTs (both crappy and expensive). That I know. What about the MCS? Were those true 6-speed automatics and did any or all have paddle shifters on the steering wheel?

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Old 07-02-2009 | 11:04 AM
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The paddle shifters were available and the auto for the S is the same concept as the CVT but idk if its belt driven or gear or what build it has. I would give you the same lecture about CVTs and how great they are but I'm just too tired really.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 11:55 AM
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I am 80% sure that the 1st gen MCSa has just a regular auto transmission with paddle shifters.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 02:42 PM
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Lots of recent posts on this...

Regular MINI (non-S): CVT

MINI Cooper S Auto: 6 Speed Aisin built Steptronic with paddle shifters
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 02:45 PM
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I keep finding everywhere online that it's built like the CVT. But I could be wrong, just goin with what I've read.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 02:52 PM
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The CVT and Aisin built 6 speed (torque converter) auto are VERY different transmissions. The only thing they have in common is no clutch pedal to depress.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 05:10 PM
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The 2005 and 2006 MCSa is definitely the Aisin 6 speed. This is the unit in my wife's '05 MCSa (yes, it has paddle shifters). I'm sure the CVT could not stand the increased power and torque of the MCS.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rhawth99
The 2005 and 2006 MCSa is definitely the Aisin 6 speed. This is the unit in my wife's '05 MCSa (yes, it has paddle shifters). I'm sure the CVT could not stand the increased power and torque of the MCS.
The CVT can barely handle the power from the justacooper.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 09:21 PM
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The CVT is very capable. I'll defend it to the end. Plus there is more than one type of CVT and many CVTs handle 150 to 200 horsepower easily. But I wouldn't put them under turbo'd conditions but a super could be ok under certain conditions.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 09:26 PM
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Well, then the one in my sister's car sucks. It can't react fast enough to the engine, it bogs when you set off, and it will let the engine rev past redline and not come down. Plus, it is an automatic transmission - nail in the coffin right here. I'm sort of biased though.
 
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Old 07-02-2009 | 09:29 PM
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Ya it's okay, its the computer that makes it bog when taking off, takes a second to get it's things together to tell it to engage and go. I don't the red line problem. But if you floor it and go to redline, it will stay there until you let off or push it down more to where it will jump itself back down to 5500 then shoot back to 6K. It's supposed to do that. I figure you know how the internals of a CVT work?
 
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