Help - rear brake caliper piston won't compress
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Help - rear brake caliper piston won't compress
Help! I started my rear brake pad replace job yesterday and have not been able to get my piston to compress! I have tried:
1 - c-clamp followed by needle nose pliers
2 - needle nose pliers only (the piston won't go in but will thread out)
3 - piston compression tool (only the dowels don't line up)
I cannot even get the assembly back together with the old pads. Is there anybody who carries the right tool that fits the mini piston holes?
Any other suggestions? I have an undriveable car sitting in my driveway.
1 - c-clamp followed by needle nose pliers
2 - needle nose pliers only (the piston won't go in but will thread out)
3 - piston compression tool (only the dowels don't line up)
I cannot even get the assembly back together with the old pads. Is there anybody who carries the right tool that fits the mini piston holes?
Any other suggestions? I have an undriveable car sitting in my driveway.
#3
Yep, the piston needs to turn while compressing. Its a pain w-out the right tool.
http://www.harborfreight.com/18-piec...kit-97143.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/18-piec...kit-97143.html
#4
Got (multiple tools) still can't find right jig
I got the vise like tool from Auto zone but jigs pegs don't line up with mini piston indentions. I also got the "cube tool" and those pegs won't line up either. With the needle nose, I am turning and pushing but still not getting the piston back in the caliper. If I can't solve this problem, I am going to have tow my car out of the drive way (with no brakes) and take to the shop.
#5
The harbourfreight tool does have the block (one size smaller than the most common on that comes with many older tools/rentals).
One thing...you might be able to crack open the caliper bleed valce while twisting and pushing to realese some fluid...making it easier to push...this can be a good idea anyway to get rid of the dirty fluid in it anyway...the fluid in the calipers gets dirty and water logged....and if the calipers are not bleed (even with a pad change) can result in corrosion in the piston...tearing the rubber seals or legging then get gummy), resulting in leaks....and the need to rebuild the caliper.
One thing...you might be able to crack open the caliper bleed valce while twisting and pushing to realese some fluid...making it easier to push...this can be a good idea anyway to get rid of the dirty fluid in it anyway...the fluid in the calipers gets dirty and water logged....and if the calipers are not bleed (even with a pad change) can result in corrosion in the piston...tearing the rubber seals or legging then get gummy), resulting in leaks....and the need to rebuild the caliper.
#6
Rear caliper compressed! Success!?
I purchased the Harbor Freight tool for $40 (great store, a place to send my family for Xmas shopping) and the caliper compressed. I also figured out how to attach the rear clips to the caliper (hopefully). After getting the brakes bled and buttoning everything up, drove the car and it stopped and rolled when I wanted it to.
One question: I have done multiple disc brake jobs in the past but I have never felt the disks. After driving for a while and trying the brakes, I noticed the disk were hot to the touch (not blistering but hot). Is that normal?
One question: I have done multiple disc brake jobs in the past but I have never felt the disks. After driving for a while and trying the brakes, I noticed the disk were hot to the touch (not blistering but hot). Is that normal?
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I noticed that the rear disc's appear to be warmer to the touch than the fronts, quite a bit warmer than I would have expected. This was on a new to me car that just had new pads/rotors installed on all 4 corners. Any similar experience's? Any key or typical items that would keep the rear pads from properly retracting? It did diminish after 1k miles, but still a slight difference.
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The rears can get very hot for a few reasons; solid disk, small disk diameter, small pad contact area. All this adds up to the rear brakes not being able to dissipate heat very quickly so even though the rear brakes do not work as hard they are not as efficient as the fronts.
To gain a little reassurance, you might want to jack up the rear and spin each tire with the parking brake off just to brake sure the pads/parking brake are not dragging on the rotor too much. A little drag is normal.
To gain a little reassurance, you might want to jack up the rear and spin each tire with the parking brake off just to brake sure the pads/parking brake are not dragging on the rotor too much. A little drag is normal.
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R53 caliper retraction tool
I got the vise like tool from Auto zone but jigs pegs don't line up with mini piston indentions. I also got the "cube tool" and those pegs won't line up either. With the needle nose, I am turning and pushing but still not getting the piston back in the caliper. If I can't solve this problem, I am going to have tow my car out of the drive way (with no brakes) and take to the shop.
I'm having this problem too. 2006 R53. Rented tool kit from AZ but nothing in kit fits the piston. http://www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools...set/298604_0_0 Smallest adapter in kit is 1 1/4 inch. Also have cube tools but they don't fit either. Never had this problem with any other car. Damn PIA Mini.
Wished I'd found this out before I disassembled the car. Appears to need an adapter with four pins. http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/3940 or http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/3941
Does anyone know another caliper retraction tool kit that has correct adapter to fit??
#14
I have used successfully used the Harbor Freight "Disc Brake Caliper Tool Set", item 40732 on my stock 2006 MCS. There is no adapter with 4 prongs in the kit. I use one of them with 2 prongs. The tool works, but takes a bit of work. I usually fumble around getting things in place (could use 3 hands.) After a few turns it seems to bind and has to be reset. My guess is that the rate the piston screws in is not the same rate that the tool presses it in.
Bottom line. It does work.
Bottom line. It does work.
#15
HF tool gets easier with experience. I've been using it on MINIs since 2004
trick is - if it begins to get 'tight' back off and reset. When it works right the piston does more retracting via the screw motion then is does by the press.
p.s. compare the HF tool to the one Outmotoring sells ...
http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop..._tool_set.html
https://www.harborfreight.com/catalo...f&q=brake+tool
both are $50
trick is - if it begins to get 'tight' back off and reset. When it works right the piston does more retracting via the screw motion then is does by the press.
p.s. compare the HF tool to the one Outmotoring sells ...
http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop..._tool_set.html
https://www.harborfreight.com/catalo...f&q=brake+tool
both are $50
Last edited by Capt_bj; 08-07-2017 at 01:16 PM.
#16
When I did mine 2 years ago, I was not up to speed with the parking brake self-adjust mechanism. It took me some struggle to realize the need to rotate the piston to retract it. I didn't have the needed speciality tool on hand. I just used a C-clamp and a pair of needle nose pliers. C-clamp to lightly compress the piston on the lip, and the pliers to rotate the piston. It took some patience but once I realize gentle does it it was quite easy. In my case the trick was not to crank on the C-clamp but just tighten it lightly as if you crank on the clamp you also make the piston that hard to rotate.
YMMV if you are in rustbelt country.
YMMV if you are in rustbelt country.
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I was trying to do my brakes today and ran into this issue, sort of. My piston will turn, but it won't compress into the caliper. I have one of the brake caliper compression kits, with a 4 peg disc that fits. I originally used the tool to both compress and turn the piston, but then switched to just turning the piston. Neither would get the piston to retract, even with opening the bleeder valve. I also disconnected the parking brake cable (brake was not applied), just to make sure that wasn't a hold up.
It looks like the seal is spinning with the piston instead of letting the piston spin inside of it. I tried using silicon spray on the seal to make it more pliable, but that didn't help.
Thankfully I was able to get the old pads and rotor back on so I'm not stuck without a ride. And my rears have some life left on them (was just switching to street performance parts to match the fronts). I didn't bother trying to take the other side apart at this point.
Any ideas on why a piston would just spin? Is it time for a caliper, or two?
TIA
It looks like the seal is spinning with the piston instead of letting the piston spin inside of it. I tried using silicon spray on the seal to make it more pliable, but that didn't help.
Thankfully I was able to get the old pads and rotor back on so I'm not stuck without a ride. And my rears have some life left on them (was just switching to street performance parts to match the fronts). I didn't bother trying to take the other side apart at this point.
Any ideas on why a piston would just spin? Is it time for a caliper, or two?
TIA
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