R50/53 Oil choices
#27
The point of this ENTIRE thread....
Pick an oil that meets (or exceeds) the Specs the motor needs..since the motor and the specs are from 2002, that means most ANY oil (synthetic, only as required) is OK for normal engine oil change intervals, or simply use a BMW LongLife approved oil for extended drain interval, and you will be fine....
If it is a quality oil, and says synthetic, you are gonna be fine. Reports of engine damage from bad oil from folks that have the full 5 quarts of oil in their car are simply not there (in the gen1 MINI anyway)......
Pick an oil that meets (or exceeds) the Specs the motor needs..since the motor and the specs are from 2002, that means most ANY oil (synthetic, only as required) is OK for normal engine oil change intervals, or simply use a BMW LongLife approved oil for extended drain interval, and you will be fine....
If it is a quality oil, and says synthetic, you are gonna be fine. Reports of engine damage from bad oil from folks that have the full 5 quarts of oil in their car are simply not there (in the gen1 MINI anyway)......
#28
Recommended Oil Kits.
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OEM MINI Oil
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2497572/
Motul 8100 X-cess
Liqui Moly
Total Quartz 9000 energy
We also carry redline & royal purple just not in complete service kits.
Thanks
Click here.
OEM MINI Oil
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2497572/
Motul 8100 X-cess
Liqui Moly
Total Quartz 9000 energy
We also carry redline & royal purple just not in complete service kits.
Thanks
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#30
the extra info on a few posts can be nice but sometimes it is kinda outof place...
Sure, all the above oils are bmw longlife oils, and may not be "mainstream" bigbox consumer oils...and good stuff imo, but other than an add, does ecs tuning have ant expertise or experance to add to the discussion?!
#31
Sorry , posted really quick here and did not get to discuss. I usually do.
I really like these oils because they do meet the BMW LL-01 and also I currently run the the Motul 8100 X-cess. Have used Motul, and Genuine MINI Oil in the past with no problems.
* I have about 208,000 miles on 2005 MINI Cooper Convertible, ( all of them since I bought it new ) which I believe I am the current highest for a R52 convertible. * I change my oil with the OEM filter and replace the drain plug almost ever time so it will not stick to the oil pan which happens something.
Cannot say enough about changing oil on a MINI and also checking your oil in between changes.
Another tip : When it comes to changing your oil, make sure when you seat the oil filter housing gasket on correctly. When you screw on the cap for the filter housing improperly, they can sometimes get spliced from the inserting the housing cap with a dry seal.
The Total Oil and Liquid Moly ( Made in Germany ) have been well respected with the MINI crowds in Europe and I really like them outside of the OEM Genuine MINI Oil and Motul.
Thanks
I really like these oils because they do meet the BMW LL-01 and also I currently run the the Motul 8100 X-cess. Have used Motul, and Genuine MINI Oil in the past with no problems.
* I have about 208,000 miles on 2005 MINI Cooper Convertible, ( all of them since I bought it new ) which I believe I am the current highest for a R52 convertible. * I change my oil with the OEM filter and replace the drain plug almost ever time so it will not stick to the oil pan which happens something.
Cannot say enough about changing oil on a MINI and also checking your oil in between changes.
Another tip : When it comes to changing your oil, make sure when you seat the oil filter housing gasket on correctly. When you screw on the cap for the filter housing improperly, they can sometimes get spliced from the inserting the housing cap with a dry seal.
The Total Oil and Liquid Moly ( Made in Germany ) have been well respected with the MINI crowds in Europe and I really like them outside of the OEM Genuine MINI Oil and Motul.
Thanks
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Last edited by ECSTuning; 02-25-2013 at 10:35 AM.
#32
Not to burst your bubble, but they are not really well respected, they are just the cheaper option. Having lived in Germany for 4 years and been part of the MINI scene there for 2 + of them, I know a little about it. They aren't bad oils, but there is nothing special about it. But I do agree that other oils can meet or exceed the LL-01 rating. There are a lot of options out there for oil even if MINI USA don't recommend them.
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Synthetic oil was created by German scientists during the 1930's and 1940's to supplement the need of crude oil in various military applications. During the 1950's and 1960's synthetic oil reached a further customer base by becoming of use to aviation enthusiasts. Finally, during the 1970's the synthetic oil formulations were offered to consumers for automotive use. It took nearly 40 years for synthetic oil to make it from theory to your auto parts shelf.
So much for Amsoil creating it.
So much for Amsoil creating it.
#42
Synthetic oil was created by German scientists during the 1930's and 1940's to supplement the need of crude oil in various military applications. During the 1950's and 1960's synthetic oil reached a further customer base by becoming of use to aviation enthusiasts. Finally, during the 1970's the synthetic oil formulations were offered to consumers for automotive use. It took nearly 40 years for synthetic oil to make it from theory to your auto parts shelf.
So much for Amsoil creating it.
So much for Amsoil creating it.
Who said Amsoil created it?
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Ok - late starter here. 3 MINI's and 3 assorted BMW's in my garage. Total miles well over 800k km. They all get whatever the handbooks say at half the regular interval.
BMW LL-01 in the Mini's. Magatech or 'Modern Engine' in the others - All Castrol.
I'm sure there are more expensive oils out there but good quality regularly changed will always keep your engine happy. Track days - another matter to consider.
BMW LL-01 in the Mini's. Magatech or 'Modern Engine' in the others - All Castrol.
I'm sure there are more expensive oils out there but good quality regularly changed will always keep your engine happy. Track days - another matter to consider.
#46
Actually, the very early work on synthetic oils was going on concurrently in Germany and the USA. The first real synthetics oils came out concurrently in Germany, the UK and the USA. Amsoil, while not the first to market and sell synthetic oils, was the first synthetic motor oil in the world to meet American Petroleum Institute service requirements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsoil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsoil
#47
Originally Posted by Braminator
Synthetic oil was created by German scientists during the 1930's and 1940's to supplement the need of crude oil in various military applications. During the 1950's and 1960's synthetic oil reached a further customer base by becoming of use to aviation enthusiasts. Finally, during the 1970's the synthetic oil formulations were offered to consumers for automotive use. It took nearly 40 years for synthetic oil to make it from theory to your auto parts shelf.
Synthetic oil was created by German scientists during the 1930's and 1940's to supplement the need of crude oil in various military applications. During the 1950's and 1960's synthetic oil reached a further customer base by becoming of use to aviation enthusiasts. Finally, during the 1970's the synthetic oil formulations were offered to consumers for automotive use. It took nearly 40 years for synthetic oil to make it from theory to your auto parts shelf.
Actually, the very early work on synthetic oils was going on concurrently in Germany and the USA. The first real synthetics oils came out concurrently in Germany, the UK and the USA. Amsoil, while not the first to market and sell synthetic oils, was the first synthetic motor oil in the world to meet American Petroleum Institute service requirements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsoil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsoil
#49
This is a very helpful thread. I followed an Amzoil link and discovered that they have a product that meets BMW LL-01 specs, important for me as I follow the 15k/countdown oil change interval. Can anyone verify that the European Car Formula has been tested or approved or whatever it takes?
Thanks-
Val
Thanks-
Val