I agree that this a very mature site. I've had my drawbacks a few times, but usually apologize if it happens. I came from an Mitsubishi Eclipse forum, and you can imagine it was terribly childish. I guess it has to do with the type and possible age of owners on these threads. You don't see many 16 year olds driving Minis as you would Eclipses, who tend to be the ones who start arguments on these other sites, as the age group reaches out to younger drivers.