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Old 03-30-2014, 12:37 PM
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Newbie with R53, need help determining water pump or thermostat leak.

Hey guys, we've go an 02 MCS that I recently replaced the coolant tank after it exploded. I refilled it with Peak 50/50 gold colored coolant, maybe should have used Zerex? Immediately after and unseemingly unrelated, a coolant leak started in the front of the engine compartment.

It occurs if the engine is started for just a minute. The attached picture shows were it leaks without the front tray attached. It's quite baffling b/c I cannot see the sources. Could this be the water pump or the the thermostat?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/121851728@N03/
 

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Old 03-30-2014, 06:00 PM
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i think try to see the filler hole in the front is leaking and the clamps move when the reservoir explodes...

try to use blue bmw coolant..


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Thanks for the reply!

What do you mean by the filler hole in the front?
 
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Originally Posted by dynasty_v6
Hey guys, we've go an 02 MCS that I recently replaced the coolant tank after it exploded. I refilled it with Peak 50/50 gold colored coolant, maybe should have used Zerex? Immediately after and unseemingly unrelated, a coolant leak started in the front of the engine compartment.

It occurs if the engine is started for just a minute. The attached picture shows were it leaks without the front tray attached. It's quite baffling b/c I cannot see the sources. Could this be the water pump or the the thermostat?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/121851728@N03/
Look on the thermostat housing, just behind the supcharger. Follow where that big hose connected. Start engine.. You might see water leak.
 
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:43 PM
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I had the same with my 1st 02 MCS it was the thermostat gasket, during the cold months I would notice a small amount of coolant, warmer weather no leak, source was gasket, so changed the thermostat and gasket and leak gone.
 
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Old 03-31-2014, 02:13 PM
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Standing in front....
The water pump is on the left....the thermostat on the right.....
 
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The pic shows the leak is front right...
Thermostat leak is usually a weap....nobdrip.... Look around...could even be a hose or the radiator...gotta look...YOU are the detective here....
Drips can hit splash guards and travel....so WHERE it lands is usually not an indication of where it might come from....
 
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I've tried, it seems to come from the front of the engine somewhere where I can't see. It does not appear to be from the radiator area.

I was hoping to pressure test it, but cannot find a suitable adapter.

A water pump would not leak this much I'm thinking. I'll get the thermostat & gasket and see what I find.

Thanks guys!
 
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:28 PM
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On an 2002 I would look at the hoses closely...even the clamps...10+ years on rubber hoses and spring clamps are getting up there.....
 
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Yup! Zippy is right! Hose or could be the radiator itself. I would put it on service mode though,that way you can see much more on the front end.
 
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go to the local discount tool store. buy a cooling system pressure tester. read the instructions on which adapter cap to use. pump up the system to 16psi and watch for the leak. It's a far more accurate way than guessing and if it is the water pump, that's a very time consuming job (remove supercharger). I had to do this testing the week after I picked up my 06 R53. It needed a thermostat gasket. no big deal.
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Originally Posted by slomofo
go to the local discount tool store. buy a cooling system pressure tester. read the instructions on which adapter cap to use. pump up the system to 16psi and watch for the leak. It's a far more accurate way than guessing and if it is the water pump, that's a very time consuming job (remove supercharger). I had to do this testing the week after I picked up my 06 R53. It needed a thermostat gasket. no big deal.
Tester Kit
I normally rent the kit from O-reillys but I tried and I it does not work with the mini coolant tank. I just used it to find a radiator leak on another one of our cars that took higher priority.

Are you saying the Harbor Freight kit does work with the mini coolant tank?
 
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:23 AM
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I used the Harbor Freight kit on mine. Worked great.
 
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Alright I'm going to pick one up.

Thanks again guys for your guidance, it's greatly appreciated
 
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