R50/53 "Comprehensive" Front End Suspension Maintenance
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"Comprehensive" Front End Suspension Maintenance
Hello all,
After months of poring through NAM, Pelican Parts, and more, I'm mentally preparing for a big suspension job.
Below is what I plan on replacing, using PowerFlex bushings where relevant.
If anybody could chime in with any item I'm missing, I'd appreciate it! I'd love to avoid having to tear the car apart again just because I forgot something.
80k on the car
(Subframe lowered)
(Clean out dust from power steering pump)
-Lower engine mount (and uppers, tranny mount bushings)
-LCA bushings
-Outer ball joints
-Inner ball joints
-Driver/Passenger Inner/Outer tie rods (no special tool required for inner ends?)
-Sway bar bushing
-Steering rack bushing
-sway bar end links
-strut mounts (if necessary) (edit: replacing with IE fixed camber plates)
-struts/springs (Front/Rear)
-bump stops (Front/Rear)
Thanks in advance! And thanks to all contributors to the LCA bushing/subframe threads - they're golden.
After months of poring through NAM, Pelican Parts, and more, I'm mentally preparing for a big suspension job.
Below is what I plan on replacing, using PowerFlex bushings where relevant.
If anybody could chime in with any item I'm missing, I'd appreciate it! I'd love to avoid having to tear the car apart again just because I forgot something.
80k on the car
(Subframe lowered)
(Clean out dust from power steering pump)
-Lower engine mount (and uppers, tranny mount bushings)
-LCA bushings
-Outer ball joints
-Inner ball joints
-Driver/Passenger Inner/Outer tie rods (no special tool required for inner ends?)
-Sway bar bushing
-Steering rack bushing
-sway bar end links
-strut mounts (if necessary) (edit: replacing with IE fixed camber plates)
-struts/springs (Front/Rear)
-bump stops (Front/Rear)
Thanks in advance! And thanks to all contributors to the LCA bushing/subframe threads - they're golden.
Last edited by Frozone; 08-15-2015 at 12:09 PM. Reason: added sway bar end links
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That's a pretty good list. You are welcome. On the front these are the ones I look at.
On the front end here are the items to check out and replace:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ll-joints.html
On the LCAB recommend the PF as its a once and done thing.
Strut mounts: Upgrade
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-question.html
Strut mounts stock: 31306778833
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ut-mounts.html
On the front end here are the items to check out and replace:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ll-joints.html
On the LCAB recommend the PF as its a once and done thing.
Strut mounts: Upgrade
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-question.html
Strut mounts stock: 31306778833
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ut-mounts.html
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Looks good! Post up everything once you start getting into it. I did upgraded steering rack bushings and they did wonders for tightening up the play I had in my wheel. I love them. If you need anything please don't hesitate to ask!
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Way - I'm leaning towards the TSW springs, Koni Yellows, and IE Fixed camber plates. It looks like the camber plates will eat into the TSW's 3/4" drop, but hopefully not by much (3/16" plate)?
-DD (don't want camber to eat my tires)
-occasional autox
-occasional track
-DD (don't want camber to eat my tires)
-occasional autox
-occasional track
Last edited by Frozone; 06-13-2015 at 07:17 PM.
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Excellent - thanks for the pointers. The strut mount options look interesting.
Appreciate it! I'll try to get some pics of the project.
Appreciate it! I'll try to get some pics of the project.
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http://youtu.be/-yEfrPpQBdk
MOD Mini has a ton of how to videos some are standard but this is one that's pretty cool if the link isn't working just go to YouTube search mod mini lower control arm it's fast he does both sides in about 20 minutes 10 a piece without anymore than Jack stands and a sawzall
MOD Mini has a ton of how to videos some are standard but this is one that's pretty cool if the link isn't working just go to YouTube search mod mini lower control arm it's fast he does both sides in about 20 minutes 10 a piece without anymore than Jack stands and a sawzall
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http://youtu.be/-yEfrPpQBdk
MOD Mini has a ton of how to videos some are standard but this is one that's pretty cool if the link isn't working just go to YouTube search mod mini lower control arm it's fast he does both sides in about 20 minutes 10 a piece without anymore than Jack stands and a sawzall
MOD Mini has a ton of how to videos some are standard but this is one that's pretty cool if the link isn't working just go to YouTube search mod mini lower control arm it's fast he does both sides in about 20 minutes 10 a piece without anymore than Jack stands and a sawzall
Thanks for the tip though. The video is a good visual reference.
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I just did my LCA bushing for the first time a few weeks ago. I did not drop the subframe.
Even with the BMW tools, the age and rust made the job horrible, but the sawsall was the solution and literally made it a few mins to remove. I will continue with that method for my future changes.
It will be impossible to torque the inner balljoint if you don't drop the subframe. If you want to change the inner, then you did the right thing.
Good job with the PSP service (I once had a problem doing that, but my fix has held for 3 years and 40K kms).
I didn't do it this time, but I thought there was a special tool for the inner tierod, but I found it to rent it from the part store.
Don't forget about an alignment when you're done.
Even with the BMW tools, the age and rust made the job horrible, but the sawsall was the solution and literally made it a few mins to remove. I will continue with that method for my future changes.
It will be impossible to torque the inner balljoint if you don't drop the subframe. If you want to change the inner, then you did the right thing.
Good job with the PSP service (I once had a problem doing that, but my fix has held for 3 years and 40K kms).
I didn't do it this time, but I thought there was a special tool for the inner tierod, but I found it to rent it from the part store.
Don't forget about an alignment when you're done.
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While you're here - do you have any concurrence on the ride height with TSW springs/IE fixed plates? There's conflicting information in and out of NAM, but it generally seems that the 3/4" drop from the TSWs is mostly undone by the added height from the IE fixed plates.
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You are welcome, good luck and it you need anything, I am here.
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Thanks for the input!
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Do not get powerflex bumpstops for the front
youll have to cut em thanks to way for letting me know that
http://www.waymotorworks.com/bump-stops.html
Those will work for ya :D
Also ask if they will do powerflex pressing for the control arm housing for you...
Bet he can
Also tools rent em...or borrow from friend if they have em.(specialty ones that is)
Do you have a list of parts that you have ordered already and such.
The ball joints and tierods i ordered from parts geek.
Heck even the sponsers here and main mini shops online will either get near or even beat that price.
Though
You will need these unless you like blowing up tires.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/h-sport...ber-links.html
Those will make life a little easier on ya
youll have to cut em thanks to way for letting me know that
http://www.waymotorworks.com/bump-stops.html
Those will work for ya :D
Also ask if they will do powerflex pressing for the control arm housing for you...
Bet he can
Also tools rent em...or borrow from friend if they have em.(specialty ones that is)
Do you have a list of parts that you have ordered already and such.
The ball joints and tierods i ordered from parts geek.
Heck even the sponsers here and main mini shops online will either get near or even beat that price.
Though
You will need these unless you like blowing up tires.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/h-sport...ber-links.html
Those will make life a little easier on ya
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Do not get powerflex bumpstops for the front
youll have to cut em
Also ask if they will do powerflex pressing for the control arm housing for you...
Also tools rent em...or borrow from friend if they have em.(specialty ones that is)
Though
You will need these unless you like blowing up tires.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/h-sport...ber-links.html
Those will make life a little easier on ya
youll have to cut em
Also ask if they will do powerflex pressing for the control arm housing for you...
Also tools rent em...or borrow from friend if they have em.(specialty ones that is)
Though
You will need these unless you like blowing up tires.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/h-sport...ber-links.html
Those will make life a little easier on ya
And I'm waiting on Way's TSW springs to be in stock, so I'm not too worried about adjusting the rear camber just yet.
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