R50/53 Okay, exactly how much of an interference design is the R53 motor?? Verify timing?
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Okay, exactly how much of an interference design is the R53 motor?? Verify timing?
So, I've been troubleshooting my car's rough idle / inconsistent vacuum issues ever since finishing my head gasket job last fall. After taking it to a shop, turns out it has low compression across the board:
#1- 130
#2- 135
#3- 125
#4- 145
The way I see it, there are two possibilities- The timing is off by a tooth or so and the exhaust valves are opening too early, or-
I second-guessed the timing on re-assembly & ran it off by a tooth for about a minute. It started to sound like a diesel so I shut it off. Here's the full story-
Please keep in mind that I did all this last September, so I don't really remember the specific reasoning as to why I did this, but here goes-
I used white out to put reference marks on the chain & cam sprocket. With the timing chain tensioner out, I rotated the crank until the cam sprocket turned 360 deg. I think this was to bring it's arrow back to facing up without rotating the engine backward. Unfortunately, this caused me to lose my reference mark on my timing chain. However, I believe I did the rest of the head gasket job without moving a tooth.
So then, I got the engine re-assembled and started it up. It struggled to fire & idled pretty terribly, so I second-guess the timing. Looking at the position of the cam gear & comparing it to a "before" reference photo (also referencing a mark I'd made on the crank pulley), It appeared to have skipped a tooth. So then, I moved the cam gear counter-clockwise by one tooth. I believe this would retard the timing? Fired it up, it ran fine for a few seconds, then slowly started to get more & more valve train noise, eventually wounding like a diesel & I shut it off after a minute or so.
Wanting to make sure I had the timing correct, I pulled the timing cover only to discover that it was actually correct the first time, so I placed the chain's colored links on the crank & cam sprocket's corresponding arrows & have been running it that way ever since.
If you've made it this far, I have two questions:
Is it possible to have bent valves from running the engine one tooth off?
Is it possible for the timing to "look correct" based on the links / marks but still be off??
From what I have heard, this is an interference engine but will only hit if it's "way off". I've also heard that if you're lining up the links & sprocket marks, your only two outcomes would be to have correct timing or to have it 180 deg. off, resulting in a running engine but with crank & cam sensor fault codes.
I currently have no codes.
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
#1- 130
#2- 135
#3- 125
#4- 145
The way I see it, there are two possibilities- The timing is off by a tooth or so and the exhaust valves are opening too early, or-
I second-guessed the timing on re-assembly & ran it off by a tooth for about a minute. It started to sound like a diesel so I shut it off. Here's the full story-
Please keep in mind that I did all this last September, so I don't really remember the specific reasoning as to why I did this, but here goes-
I used white out to put reference marks on the chain & cam sprocket. With the timing chain tensioner out, I rotated the crank until the cam sprocket turned 360 deg. I think this was to bring it's arrow back to facing up without rotating the engine backward. Unfortunately, this caused me to lose my reference mark on my timing chain. However, I believe I did the rest of the head gasket job without moving a tooth.
So then, I got the engine re-assembled and started it up. It struggled to fire & idled pretty terribly, so I second-guess the timing. Looking at the position of the cam gear & comparing it to a "before" reference photo (also referencing a mark I'd made on the crank pulley), It appeared to have skipped a tooth. So then, I moved the cam gear counter-clockwise by one tooth. I believe this would retard the timing? Fired it up, it ran fine for a few seconds, then slowly started to get more & more valve train noise, eventually wounding like a diesel & I shut it off after a minute or so.
Wanting to make sure I had the timing correct, I pulled the timing cover only to discover that it was actually correct the first time, so I placed the chain's colored links on the crank & cam sprocket's corresponding arrows & have been running it that way ever since.
If you've made it this far, I have two questions:
Is it possible to have bent valves from running the engine one tooth off?
Is it possible for the timing to "look correct" based on the links / marks but still be off??
From what I have heard, this is an interference engine but will only hit if it's "way off". I've also heard that if you're lining up the links & sprocket marks, your only two outcomes would be to have correct timing or to have it 180 deg. off, resulting in a running engine but with crank & cam sensor fault codes.
I currently have no codes.
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
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