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Old 02-22-2020 | 08:13 AM
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There is no more clunk!!!! I was actually scared when I put the wheels back on and lowered it to the ground. If I drove it and still had the clunk, I may have cried. However it drove like the little monster it is, with no clunk on the bumps. The extra hp from the pulley and the sound of the supercharger had me smiling and laughing all around my neighborhood loop. I got back and did the ubiquitous happy dance in the garage!!! I might burn a tank of gas on the blue ridge parkway tomorrow, just to celebrate.
haha nice!
 
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Old 02-22-2020 | 09:02 AM
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Thank You for this. Go awhile there i was getting the same think front right side. Finally replaced the control arm bushing and while in there the ball joints were out. So replaced inner and outer as well.

now I’m getting a mild clunk on the left side now.

so maybe it’s the sway bar bushing too.
 
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Old 02-22-2020 | 01:06 PM
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It seems like a simple test would be to disconnect a sway bar end link. If it is a sway bar bushing, that would unload it and expectedly end the sound.

At at least I think so,
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Old 02-22-2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ptkacik
It seems like a simple test would be to disconnect a sway bar end link. If it is a sway bar bushing, that would unload it and expectedly end the sound.

At at least I think so,
Peter
why didn’t i think of that? Thanks peter. I almost bought a bushing too.
 
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Old 02-22-2020 | 03:00 PM
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I could barely replicate the sound by rocking it back and forth with weight on the wheels. I just put it up on ramps and had a friend rock it side to side while I felt around. When I held onto the sway bar, the sound would stop. The old bushings don’t really look worn, but the bar was moving around. When I called a shop just to see how much it was to replace two small bushings, they said $650! And yes, you can do it with out dropping the sub frame. Yet I wouldn’t recommend it, I was being stubborn. If you haven’t done the lower control arms, sway bar links, and ball joints, just drop the frame and do them all in one shot. I just went the long way around. All told though, I’m super happy with the results. Not only is the ride clunk free, it handles like a monster!
 
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Old 02-22-2020 | 08:16 PM
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S that’s the thing ni just replaced ball joints and a arm bushings 2 days ago lol

and now this
 
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Old 02-22-2020 | 08:45 PM
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Modmini has a great video on how to drop the frame. If you want I can walk you through what I did. Either way go ahead and order some powerflex front sway bar bushings. Might as well do the sway bar link as well.
 
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Old 02-22-2020 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tdaugherty78@gmail.com
Modmini has a great video on how to drop the frame. If you want I can walk you through what I did. Either way go ahead and order some powerflex front sway bar bushings. Might as well do the sway bar link as well.
yes please. Did you have to unhook the power steering reservoir ? Walk through would be awesome.

Didn’t mean to hijack this thread.
my cars slammed on h&r coil overs. Might do an adjustable link ends
 
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Old 02-23-2020 | 05:50 AM
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Once you have the car up and wheels off. Disconnect the sway bar links
Take the power steering reservoir free from it bracket
and push it down past the heat shield slightly.
Remove the skid plate.
Remove the power steering fan.
Unbolt the 4 lower engine mount bolts.
disconnect the steering column link. One 13mm bolt.
Remove the 6 subframe bolts at the rear.
then there are 1 on each side near the lca.
Last there is 1 large bolt on each side near the wheel
wells.
At this point the you can pull the subframe down a bit. It’s still attached to the front, so it will not fall. I took a small piece of 2x4 and placed it flat between the rear brackets and the body to hold it enough. Like I read in another post, from here it’s just 4 18mm bolts......
I started with the drivers side because you have less clearance due to the brake lines. Double wrenching a ratcheting 18mm wrench is critical for this. Those bolts are on really tight. I ended up removing the front bolts on both side and loosening the rear ones as far as I could, but don’t take them out because they hold the lca’s in as well. Once I had the brackets loose enough, I slid the old bushings out toward the sides of the car, and the new ones back in. I found getting the new ones in to be a pain, but I was doing this after work and pretty worn out at this point. Once they go in, just reverse the steps. One small cut from a wrench slipping, and 3 1/2 hours later I was done. At that point I did the reduced pulley, which was another story in its self. After it was on, I very nervously backed out of the garage. If I drove out and heard that clunk, I may have cried, but it was gone and I was doing laps around the neighborhood. And a happy dance when I got back lol.
 
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Old 02-23-2020 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tdaugherty78@gmail.com
Once you have the car up and wheels off. Disconnect the sway bar links
Take the power steering reservoir free from it bracket
and push it down past the heat shield slightly.
Remove the skid plate.
Remove the power steering fan.
Unbolt the 4 lower engine mount bolts.
disconnect the steering column link. One 13mm bolt.
Remove the 6 subframe bolts at the rear.
then there are 1 on each side near the lca.
Last there is 1 large bolt on each side near the wheel
wells.
At this point the you can pull the subframe down a bit. It’s still attached to the front, so it will not fall. I took a small piece of 2x4 and placed it flat between the rear brackets and the body to hold it enough. Like I read in another post, from here it’s just 4 18mm bolts......
I started with the drivers side because you have less clearance due to the brake lines. Double wrenching a ratcheting 18mm wrench is critical for this. Those bolts are on really tight. I ended up removing the front bolts on both side and loosening the rear ones as far as I could, but don’t take them out because they hold the lca’s in as well. Once I had the brackets loose enough, I slid the old bushings out toward the sides of the car, and the new ones back in. I found getting the new ones in to be a pain, but I was doing this after work and pretty worn out at this point. Once they go in, just reverse the steps. One small cut from a wrench slipping, and 3 1/2 hours later I was done. At that point I did the reduced pulley, which was another story in its self. After it was on, I very nervously backed out of the garage. If I drove out and heard that clunk, I may have cried, but it was gone and I was doing laps around the neighborhood. And a happy dance when I got back lol.
very thorough, thank you for this.
 
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Old 02-23-2020 | 12:14 PM
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do you have the powerflex part number? i have 2006 cooper s , cant seem to find one
 
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Old 02-23-2020 | 12:27 PM
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Old 02-25-2020 | 11:10 AM
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Found the culprit ! It was my coilover bolt on top that was loose.

thank god i didn’t have to do the sway bar bushings lol.

thanks again guys
 
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Old 02-25-2020 | 03:26 PM
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You lucky bast......
 
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Old 03-27-2020 | 07:12 PM
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Nice, a thread full of potential solutions. thanks all! and congrats on the issues being solved!
 
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Old 01-19-2021 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ptkacik
It seems like a simple test would be to disconnect a sway bar end link. If it is a sway bar bushing, that would unload it and expectedly end the sound.

At at least I think so,
Peter
Thanks for this, it saved me a ton of time! I was chasing down a suspension knock, even replaced the strut mounts, and finally saw this and disconnected the sway bar and no more knock. Now I have it narrowed down to bushings or end links!
 
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Old 01-21-2021 | 09:15 AM
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Clunk

I had a clunk like this at one point and it turned out to be a loose engine mount. If you haven't checked that, its worth a look for sure.
 
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