R50/53 Engine out to do clutch and timing?
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Engine out to do clutch and timing?
I'm collecting parts and tools with a view on spending the first week of June doing both the clutch and timing chain.
Two things I'm wondering about
Timing Chain
I'm also doing the following while I have access
Two things I'm wondering about
- To do all of the below jobs, do I keep the engine in or is it easier to just remove it and do everything this way?
- What other jobs should I conciser doing at the same time
- Clutch Kit - Valeo single mass flywheel conversion
- Crankshaft Rear Seal
- Throwout Bearing Guide Sleeve
- Throwout Bearing Guide Sleeve Bolts
- Input Shaft Seal
- Upper Release Fork Bushing
- Lower Release Fork Bushing
- Clutch Relase Fork Bolt (3)
- Slave Cylinder
- Sump drain plug - I haven't been able to get the one fitted off yet (oil extractor was used for 2x services)
- Fuel Filter
- Exhaust Manifold Gasket
- PAS Hoses - one of these is leaking bad enough I want to replace it
- Expansion Tank - mine looks old and I believe these go
Timing Chain
- Timing chain kit
- Gasket Set - to solve some of the oil leaking around the engine
- Deflection pulley - I replaced the wrong on previously
I'm also doing the following while I have access
- Upper Engine Mount
- Lower Engine Mount
- Gearbox Mount - I couldn't find on in stock and will be using the Powerflex inserts here
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Maybe...
It may be easier to pull it... Connecting / disconnecting the shifter linkage and several of the bell housing bolts would be far easier. That said, modmini has a good video series documenting the process for the clutch. Most of those items could be done along the way without pulling it.
Access for the timing chain is reasonable once you pull the wheel. Mod a mini h(different YouTuber) has a video of the timing chain replacement without pulling as well.
So... Not necessary but may make some steps easier.
Access for the timing chain is reasonable once you pull the wheel. Mod a mini h(different YouTuber) has a video of the timing chain replacement without pulling as well.
So... Not necessary but may make some steps easier.
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I farmed out my clutch work, and most of these "while I'm at it" tasks when I first bought my car. Independent shop with a lot of Mini experience did the job, and said he found it faster to pull engine and trans together. Plus, it makes it easier to give the whole engine a once-over, inspect back side, repair little things on the stand.
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It seems overall it's probably easier to do everything or hey at everything with the engine removed. I've just ordered the bushes for the front end to as I realised how much easier they are with everything out.
I've watched some of the suggested videos but I need to study up more on the details over the next 2 weeks
I've watched some of the suggested videos but I need to study up more on the details over the next 2 weeks
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If I recall, the clutch job video he uses an engine support bar instead of pulling the motor. You may need a hoist anyway. You will also need the belt tensioner tool (homemade or purchased).
For timing chain, you will need a crank pulley puller, cam locking tool, and a puller for the crank sprocket as well.
I can't think of any other specialty tools.
I am yet to do my timing chain although I have needed to do it for the past 5k miles... Saving up for the crank pulley, idler pulley replacements + AC.
Definitely post up how it goes and the issues you face.
For timing chain, you will need a crank pulley puller, cam locking tool, and a puller for the crank sprocket as well.
I can't think of any other specialty tools.
I am yet to do my timing chain although I have needed to do it for the past 5k miles... Saving up for the crank pulley, idler pulley replacements + AC.
Definitely post up how it goes and the issues you face.
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If I recall, the clutch job video he uses an engine support bar instead of pulling the motor. You may need a hoist anyway. You will also need the belt tensioner tool (homemade or purchased).
For timing chain, you will need a crank pulley puller, cam locking tool, and a puller for the crank sprocket as well.
I can't think of any other specialty tools.
I am yet to do my timing chain although I have needed to do it for the past 5k miles... Saving up for the crank pulley, idler pulley replacements + AC.
Definitely post up how it goes and the issues you face.
For timing chain, you will need a crank pulley puller, cam locking tool, and a puller for the crank sprocket as well.
I can't think of any other specialty tools.
I am yet to do my timing chain although I have needed to do it for the past 5k miles... Saving up for the crank pulley, idler pulley replacements + AC.
Definitely post up how it goes and the issues you face.
I think he used a engine support bar for the video you're thinking of. With access being so tight and a number of other jobs I want to do I think the engine out is going to be handy. He has 2x engine out videos, I don't think I can match his faster timed one
![LOL](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif)
Will post it up in my thread how I get on!
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I had some of the tools mentioned but had to get the cam locking tool.
I think he used a engine support bar for the video you're thinking of. With access being so tight and a number of other jobs I want to do I think the engine out is going to be handy. He has 2x engine out videos, I don't think I can match his faster timed one![LOL](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif)
Will post it up in my thread how I get on!
I think he used a engine support bar for the video you're thinking of. With access being so tight and a number of other jobs I want to do I think the engine out is going to be handy. He has 2x engine out videos, I don't think I can match his faster timed one
![LOL](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif)
Will post it up in my thread how I get on!
engine support bar with a ratchet strap on the trans is the best way to dismount and mount the trans , pulling out the subframe is the fastest and most accessible way for everything, and the cam locking tool is worthless, it’s used to keep the cam in place so you don’t get it out of timing , just use a electric ratchet and boom your good lol
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