R50/53 Crank Pulley & Tensioner...
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Crank Pulley & Tensioner...
In the middle of a tensioner/pulley/belt/idler swap, got it all out, did not have to pull the motor mount or lower engine mount or get the engine high enough for the upper tensioner bolt to come out. It wiggled out with patients.
So, I've had a minor vib that has been present since the axle swap, originally thought it might have been the other axle but it was previously replaced so I held off on buying anything until this work was done. Now that the tensioner is out, I grab a hold of the crank balancer and give it a once over, turns out it wiggles. So, found my vibration problem.
As any of you guys who have done this work know, it is such a joy to do What I want to know is, besides the crank pulley & crank seal...
what else can I tackle while I am in here at the front of the motor? (already previously swapped the cam sensor that went bad)
Timing Chain tensioner?
Oil pump/filter/cooler o-rings?
Have the 17% pulley still on the ground (Alta 15% installed & 17% is another Alta)
On a side note after working on the MINI today... "Hey, no blood!"
So, I've had a minor vib that has been present since the axle swap, originally thought it might have been the other axle but it was previously replaced so I held off on buying anything until this work was done. Now that the tensioner is out, I grab a hold of the crank balancer and give it a once over, turns out it wiggles. So, found my vibration problem.
As any of you guys who have done this work know, it is such a joy to do What I want to know is, besides the crank pulley & crank seal...
what else can I tackle while I am in here at the front of the motor? (already previously swapped the cam sensor that went bad)
Timing Chain tensioner?
Oil pump/filter/cooler o-rings?
Have the 17% pulley still on the ground (Alta 15% installed & 17% is another Alta)
On a side note after working on the MINI today... "Hey, no blood!"
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Steve,
Since you're already in there with a lot of stuff apart. You might also make sure the timing chain cover is not leaking. There's a rubber seal behind where the balancer mounts to the crank. If you take that cover off, you can also inspect the timing chain, the guides, and tensioner. I don't recall how many miles your R53 has, but since you're just a few bolts away, that's one seal that is 'right there'. I regret not doing this when we did the PRW balancer. Now I have to buy a tool just to remove the balancer to replace the timing cover seal....yeah, I'm gonna let it weep for a little longer.
Yes to oil cooler o-rings if they're leaking, but that can be done independent of the the work you are doing with the belt drive system.
Since you're already in there with a lot of stuff apart. You might also make sure the timing chain cover is not leaking. There's a rubber seal behind where the balancer mounts to the crank. If you take that cover off, you can also inspect the timing chain, the guides, and tensioner. I don't recall how many miles your R53 has, but since you're just a few bolts away, that's one seal that is 'right there'. I regret not doing this when we did the PRW balancer. Now I have to buy a tool just to remove the balancer to replace the timing cover seal....yeah, I'm gonna let it weep for a little longer.
Yes to oil cooler o-rings if they're leaking, but that can be done independent of the the work you are doing with the belt drive system.
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steve05ram360 (10-20-2020)
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Steve,
Since you're already in there with a lot of stuff apart. You might also make sure the timing chain cover is not leaking. There's a rubber seal behind where the balancer mounts to the crank. If you take that cover off, you can also inspect the timing chain, the guides, and tensioner. I don't recall how many miles your R53 has, but since you're just a few bolts away, that's one seal that is 'right there'. I regret not doing this when we did the PRW balancer. Now I have to buy a tool just to remove the balancer to replace the timing cover seal....yeah, I'm gonna let it weep for a little longer.
Yes to oil cooler o-rings if they're leaking, but that can be done independent of the the work you are doing with the belt drive system.
Since you're already in there with a lot of stuff apart. You might also make sure the timing chain cover is not leaking. There's a rubber seal behind where the balancer mounts to the crank. If you take that cover off, you can also inspect the timing chain, the guides, and tensioner. I don't recall how many miles your R53 has, but since you're just a few bolts away, that's one seal that is 'right there'. I regret not doing this when we did the PRW balancer. Now I have to buy a tool just to remove the balancer to replace the timing cover seal....yeah, I'm gonna let it weep for a little longer.
Yes to oil cooler o-rings if they're leaking, but that can be done independent of the the work you are doing with the belt drive system.
Sounds like your pointing to the crank seal, I have that coming as well. The timing cover, is that easy enough to pull off the front of the block with it in the engine bay? If yes then I may just swap it anyway
edit: looks like it can be done from the engine bay... https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4344067
Last edited by steve05ram360; 10-20-2020 at 10:01 AM.
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steve05ram360 (10-20-2020)
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Crank seal for sure, but what I was referring to is the cover where the crank seal resides in.
Thread on the Timing Chain Cover on NAM.
Thread on the Timing Chain Cover on NAM.
Yeah the timing cover... looks to be fairly easy from where I am at.
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Zsm (10-20-2020)
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replacing the gasket & assume the 2 orings are in the kit. also, to get the timing cover off, valve cover comes off or can stay on? the one video i watched did not show the top of the motor... if yes, ugh... lol i know that needs replacing as 2 of the plug seals leak.
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I agree with the oil filter housing gasket/seal and oil cooler o- rings. I suggest pulling the whole oil filter housing out to do the cooler o-rings. Then do the oil filter housing seal when you reinstall it. I didn't do that on my first try and one of the o-rings had slipped out and I didn't see it. Oil everywhere on first start up. Plus, those torx head bolts can strip easily cuz of the weird angles.
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ssoliman (10-26-2020)
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An update... Got the pulley off, timing chain off... gasket, crank seal & o-rings swapped and re-installed. One of the o-rings was "loose" & fell out on one install attempt. Added a dab of the black silicon to the channel for the o-ring in an attempt to get it to stick while installing it. Did not see it come out of its spot but heck the cover is blocking the view. Also a nice challenge was getting the oil pump flats lined up, ended up re-installing the crank pulley bolt and rotated the motor until it slid on. Installed the 17% pulley on the SC and called it a day.
Next up will be to re-install the ATI dampner and then the tensioner & belt. Once thats done then all thats left is the engine mount and the vacuum switch. While its up I plan to do the lower engine mount since it is sitting there nice and pretty on the shelf. Cant go having parts looking pretty for too long.
Next up will be to re-install the ATI dampner and then the tensioner & belt. Once thats done then all thats left is the engine mount and the vacuum switch. While its up I plan to do the lower engine mount since it is sitting there nice and pretty on the shelf. Cant go having parts looking pretty for too long.
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ssoliman (10-27-2020)
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I agree with the oil filter housing gasket/seal and oil cooler o- rings. I suggest pulling the whole oil filter housing out to do the cooler o-rings. Then do the oil filter housing seal when you reinstall it. I didn't do that on my first try and one of the o-rings had slipped out and I didn't see it. Oil everywhere on first start up. Plus, those torx head bolts can strip easily cuz of the weird angles.
Last edited by steve05ram360; 10-27-2020 at 05:30 AM.
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Got the pulley on, read the instructions then searched for others forum input... then found that I should not use power tools. That would have been good to know IN the instructions. Used my electric impact on the bolt and it went right on. But...
Now I cannot torque the crank bolt to 85 ft lbs... tried the method here https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4559910 which did not work, motor just spins. Put it in 1st gear & 6th, spins either way, I think 1st has more leverage. Tried the belt over the pulley method and it just spins. The added in the brake lever apply to the fold and again, motor just spins.
Any suggestions?
As I write this, 1st gear, axle nut plus brake apply is the next step. I am solo here with no one to help in the near future.
Sucks, finally get some time to get back out there and cant get it done. Frustrating. Hoping the alignment is right, looks good belt wise and it appears to be bottomed out. Sooo close, belt tensioner, belt and the stuff on the top side (motor mount etc) left...
Now I cannot torque the crank bolt to 85 ft lbs... tried the method here https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4559910 which did not work, motor just spins. Put it in 1st gear & 6th, spins either way, I think 1st has more leverage. Tried the belt over the pulley method and it just spins. The added in the brake lever apply to the fold and again, motor just spins.
Any suggestions?
As I write this, 1st gear, axle nut plus brake apply is the next step. I am solo here with no one to help in the near future.
Sucks, finally get some time to get back out there and cant get it done. Frustrating. Hoping the alignment is right, looks good belt wise and it appears to be bottomed out. Sooo close, belt tensioner, belt and the stuff on the top side (motor mount etc) left...
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