I marked the 3x spots with bluetape I think might be best to install the meth injection nozzle or which spot is best or where do you suggest ? Also is it safe to mount the pump the same height as the reservoir or does it need to sit below it ?
I just started digging into this because I've just finished tuning for thd new mods and replaced a hub and working on ebrake cables too.
All I've done is try to figure out where I'm going to place everything and I tapped and installed the low level sensor ( lol what a **** show that was , their seal was too large )
so what do you guys think ?

 

As close to the intake manifold as possible.
So that would be in the centermost piece of blue tape, next to the air filter tube. If there is a boss that you can tap into down low on that air horn, pointing directly at the manifold, that would be the best location.
I say this as there is better chance of the alcohol being / staying atomized, and not turning into large, mostly useless drops.

Not knowing anything about that particular pump, yeah, I'd raise the reservoir so that the pump doesn't have to "suck' the alcohol from the tank. Keep it a gravity feed to the pump mechanicals.

Mike

 

I had it on the red horn where you marked it, but moved it to spray from the back side forward so it would have more distance instead of hitting the other side of the horn

no difference in logs but it is more stealthy and hidden

 

Sweet...ille go see if the junkyard has a horn I could use to tap..

 

I see you have the larger plenum. Did it make a difference? $ over power?
im actually about to do mine too. Figuring out plumbing. Not a fan of their tank.

 

are you talking about the sneedspeed manifold ?? Yes, yes it did help higher end pulls ALOT . My high ends amazing now actually. It lost no low end either that I could feel.. I did fully port it tgough before I installed it as their porting was pathetic.

 

Could I mount the pump sideways like this ? Then it's fully below the reservoir.. I can't find anywhere better to mount the pump that sits below the reservoir, I even was hoping to externally mount it below the car but there's no room. I could could possibly squeeze it in behind the rear strut and battery box but then I will have to trim the mounting plate to get it to fit.

 

You suppose to mount it sideways.

For the plenum. You talking too end like after 5k or 6k?

 

That's (in bold above) interesting, as that's supposed to be done by Sneed..! You should charge them for your time..!
Yes, the higher reservoir location vs. the pump location looks perfect.

Mike

 

the pump does not care where it is or how it's oriented, I have mine in the engine bay next to the ABS and it will prime itself from the tank in the back of the car

 

^^This^^
The difference in Post-I/C -vs- Pre-I/C is the volume you'd have to spray to get similar results due to loss from traveling and dissipating through the I/C itself.

Pre-S/C is not recommended with our Superchargers at all.
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Lol..well guys , u decided to get another meth kit.... was debating front mount but naaaaaaa. Dollar for dollar my setup will be far more efficient..
I sprung and got a Snow stage 2x kit...... what meth would you guys suggest ? I see alot on ebay pretty cheap , should i trust it ? Again , im gonna be asking for some help probably with this from you guys..convene I have a spare pod mount too to use for the Snow gauge/controller.. hehe this cars is really starting to fly..

 

I've sprayed probably 400 gallons of wiper fluid now it's about 30% meth if you get the -20

Are you going to have the car tuned for meth? I spray about 1 gallon per 10 gallons of fuel so 10% of my fueling and I do tune the car for it quite a bit more ignition advance

 

Lol so I'd sold that one kit awhile back and now got the stage 2x kit...
I got my kit and it only came with #4 and #5 nozzles..
if im correct should i order and run a #3 nozzle ? I'm running 21psi and I should be around 300hp crank..
I installed a nozzle into my horn just to get it all setup ect 1st. Then ille switch to the exact nozzle I need then and seal it all into place good n super tight...
any help and tips is always very much appreciated....
Im confused as what the little breather filter is used for also ????

 

I don't understand the above comment.
MrBlah, are you saying the "wiper fluid" that you are apparently injecting into your engine is 30% ? 30% of WHAT?
I surely hope that you aren't saying 30% alcohol, 70% water..??

Please explain.

Mike

 

The -20°F washer fluid is 30% methanol, I believe, like MrBlah said. I think it’s pretty common to run for meth injection.

 

Aaaaaand when I have the top on the meth container fully tight , when I squeeze tge bottle abot to check for leaks it leaks out from under the cap...is this normal or do I have a **** tank???

 

Meth tanks need a vent or they go boom which is why high quality kits like aquamist or howerton engineering have vents that run out of the cabin away from exhaust. Again all this into in the aquamist forums


This is risky **** especially in cabin as
you can’t see meth in fire and even the 49/51 **** will burn after Some evap occurs and again the meth flame is white/transparent. I have extensive knowledge in this area not bull **** I heard this or that on a car forum or bench racing. If this isn’t done right either you or your car will be ****ed


please run test patterns outside of horn and monitor cc in a graduated cylinder and conical pattern and atomization. Again autism so please excuse bluntness but this isn’t a window trigger fogger
kit from auto zone this is legit big boy panties and consequences if not right. Taking your time and running tests not only educates you the user but protects your engine

 

Um...yeah, I got that !!! Reread my post !

My question is, what's the other 70% ? 100% -30% equals.....70% ? This 70% is _________________

Mike

 

Water.

 

Water, seriously ???

You guys do realize that...WATER DOESN'T BURN don't you ? Why take up the volume in the combustion chamber with crap, water in this case !?
WHY...in all creation, would you do this? Especially in such a small percentage ? Why go to all the money and effort of installing these injection systems, for SO...little gain ?
Any of you running a water / alcohol "MIX" need to go back to 8th grade science class and reread your books ! For the best results, run...100% methanol or ethanol.

IF...you feel they you need to run more or less alcohol, figure out a way (mechanically or electronically) to "regulate" the "AMOUNT or QUANTITY" of alcohol, NOT the mixture percentage !

I tested this 30 or so years ago ! I went from 10% methanol to 25% to 50%, to 75% to 100% in a cheap, overly simple injection system in a four cylinder, carbureted engine.
Then I used 100% methanol and changed the volume of methanol with jet sizes.
There's a HUGE...all positive...difference in running the 100% methanol and controlling it, as required, by volume NOT percentage !! Been there...done that.

Wake up guys, you want power or to be an..."also ran" ?

PLUS....everyone wants cooler inlet temperatures, and goes out and buys expensive and over sized intercoolers...right ! Running the 100% alcohol / methanol, the alcohol WILL cool the incoming charge, by quite a few degrees, summer and...winter !

The above, as I noted is 8th grade science class stuff (look it up !). But I'll toss in an "opinion" of mine, the alcohol should be injected just ahead of the intercooler, (especially in the summer) so that the mix has the best chance of cooling to as the highest degree possible. But, yeah, anyplace is good...as long as you run pure, 100% methanol or ethanol.

Mike

 

I think he may have been joking.....
I also considered running 100% also but for now im just going to stick with the standard 50/50 snow brand premix..

 

If I mount the tank in my trunk could I mount the pump in the passengers side compartment by the brake line and valve ???
or do you think it would be too hot to mount the pump on the side of the battery box underneath the car IF I make heat shielding for it ????
also IF i mount the tank next to my ecu by customizing the lower intake box abit THEN would it be fine to keep the pump in the compartment with the brake lines ? Id REALLY like to keep it all out the interior of my car if possible..

 

thx for the heads up....i shall rest spray it before I put back the nozzle into my horn to make sure atomization is good and flow ect...GREAT idea to measure it too.. I'm a noob to meth so this going to be a learning experience for me , too bad no one I know has any knowledge on this.. because a helper would be very very helpful so until then I'm relying on you guys..
I guess it's time to invest in a cabin fire extinguisher..I will mount it directly ontop of my rear seat delete rite behind my arm rest..

 

My pump is in the bottom of air box and I used the stock head light washer tank