no offense taken and no hostility here, i think....j/k, and dont let me words let you think otherwise.

hey, you should put up your pic of the damper in your mini...the ones i got mounts on a different place than where you mounted. you show and tell.

Glen, do you know where i can get my car dynoed? you got to pay for it, though...

 

Ukhan24,

 

Ukhan24, This

 

Ukhan24, This Could

 

UKHAN24, thsi

 

sorry guys, something just glitched in my computer and the above happened.,

 

If you install the tornado on your computer it will run smoother and that glitch won't happen...

 

This device has never, let me say NEVER shown benefit in double blind tests. All you will ever get is "I installed one and I saw a x% benefit in this that and the other thing". Trueth is that if one puts something like this in, one WANTS it to work, and we change what we do in oh so little ways.....

So talk vortex generation and induced turbulance and whirlpool in the toilette, whatever. This makes 4 groups money.... Sheet metal sellers, the manufacturer, the distributor and the advertisers!

If you buy these things, you get what you deserve.....

Matt

 

Sooooo . . . if you decide that sprinkling caviar on your intercooler will result in hp gains and improved fuel economy, no one should tell you its a bad idea unless they buy the caviar and try the same thing? Sound reasoning

 

Find that and all arguments will go away...

Oh wait. There isn't any! Wonder why?

There was a thread like this on some funky inverted wing you put on the back of trucks to improve vortex formation. Lots of claims that the gas milage of the Suburban rose by over 35%. But absoluteley no double blind data showing any improvement. The list of these things is endless. You're better spending you $ on Girls Gone Wild videos. They're crap too, but they do deliver what they promise, unlike the Tornado!

Too bad there are some many ****** for $. Otherwise no car mag would allow this thing to be advertised, usually in the back by the sexual pills and how to videos!

Matt

 

far fetch, i think. do not go abroad to make a point, stay within the perimeter for reasoning.
dont be a smart-guy

 

i think the mod is to make you feel good about your car.
it made ASK feel good, so it worked. end story.


next!

 

read it and heard it. so do you have one too?
all thoughts are well respected so please do the same and respect others, whether you think or its just feeling.

 

What a fun thread

I still think that in a SC or Turbo this wuold not be of use.

In a NA application the quantity of AIR that you are able to shove through the system is one of the biggest limiting factors.
So that is why SC, turbo, NOS all do their thing.

Compair a FI engine to as NA biggest difference is metering of air and fuel AND ATOMIZATION of fuel.

Racers do use TB spacers WITH ridges and intake manifolds are often shaped to mix to also cause atomization.

I again have (not a doublr blind test) seen some change in a vehicle with tis product.

 

no morals or character of integrity would suggest such thing next to a tornado. if girls gone wild delivers what it targets for you than you need to get a girl-friend and spend the monies wisely.

 

kenchan, you are man. thank you for your wise input and hope others will learn from you.
understand what kenchan imposed than you will be respected more for your broad conception.

 

ASK, if the only reply you have to facts based on the laws of physics is: "Do you have one?", means you have no PROVEN facts to back up your claims. There seems to be NO proven facts about this thing, other than what is on their website (which starts off with John 3:16, yeesh), or written by anyone who they advertise with.

http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/...ey/917ff5.html

http://www.wcpo.com/external/dwym/c3b519.html

http://ezinearticles.com/?Tornado-Fuel-Saver&id=288028

http://www.fuelsaving.info/atomisation.htm

 

uh oh.... get ready to be bashed by anti-tornado fans who have not yet have one but love to discredit your experience.

 

thanks. well, you know, that engine damper isn't all that GREAT either. i didn't want to hurt shoe's feelings. jk jk

(the engine damper does do good).

 

maybe so, but i am not the only one who thinks and say what we experience is that 'it feels better' with it. so does that mean im crazy along with others who have it or is it law of physics vs. my feeling? so i ask, do you have one too?
fact or fiction: did this world we live in was designed and created by a Creator or evolution?

 

[fact or fiction: did this world we live in was designed and created by a Creator or evolution?[/quote]
By a Creator who fully used the process of Evolution and continues to do so.

 

So besides one other person, who else is saying this thing works, that doesn't have a vested interest in it's financial success?

 

i am a jolly guy and like to share what i feel on experience which i share with delight to others to make them feel a little better like i did. but as you can see, all i hear is pessimistic respected ideology with no consideration in return.
sorry to veer off: engine damper, does testing prove more gain in hp or torque? too me, just felt really better having it on than not (not directed at you kenchan , just others who need the lesson) and you can feel the difference! can i get an amen...

 

By a Creator who fully used the process of Evolution and continues to do so.[/quote]

nicely stated. i see that you are the few that really use the brain for its value. how many others do you know who would state it like you have, not the ignorants...

 

Try this, wash and wax your SO's car and tell them that you used some new 'hyper wax' that is designed to give the paint a deeper shine. Then ask them what they think.

99% of the time they will say that it looks fantastic, and we amazed at the depth of reflections.

They truely will be amazed, they are told that its special, the really will believe it too.

I told my wife that I had added a new engine oil additive to make her (old) car smoother, for weeks she was telling me how much nicer it was to drive.
The reality ? I have done absolutely nothing I just wondered if she would be fooled. Even after I told her that I had done nothing, she did not believe me, because she 'had noticed' the difference and meant to ask before I told her.

These things work because you WANT them to work.

Intersting point on 'rough' intake manifolds, I have been told this by numerous tuners, polish the exhaust, roughen the inlet to aid swirl.....