R55 All Seasons vs. Run Flats
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All Seasons vs. Run Flats
Ok, with a new S Clubman on the way I have one issue I'm still wrestling with. There's still time to make the change, and this one doesn't affect the cost of the vehicle, so it's really a preference thing.
Living in the Northeast, winter weather means I either pony up $800 for winter rims/tires or go with all season tires. Sure, all seasons don't do anything well, but they stay on all year and avoid having to buy the winter set. However, the winter salt won't be kind to the alloys and I plan to keep this car for a while. Snow tires should make winter driving safer than the all seasons. The run flats that come along with the sports package perform better than all seasons, but would make winter driving a sometimes dangerous experience.
I realize I've already made the best of decisions with a Mini, but I'm looking for your experiences and suggestions to help me make the right decision about tires!
Living in the Northeast, winter weather means I either pony up $800 for winter rims/tires or go with all season tires. Sure, all seasons don't do anything well, but they stay on all year and avoid having to buy the winter set. However, the winter salt won't be kind to the alloys and I plan to keep this car for a while. Snow tires should make winter driving safer than the all seasons. The run flats that come along with the sports package perform better than all seasons, but would make winter driving a sometimes dangerous experience.
I realize I've already made the best of decisions with a Mini, but I'm looking for your experiences and suggestions to help me make the right decision about tires!
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hfs3 - I believe that on the "S" Clubman both the all-season and the performance tires are run-flats. The only non run-flat tires offered on the Clubman are the base model with 15" rims. "S" comes standard with 16" rims, and all 16" or larger rims only have run-flat tires, in either all-season or performance version.
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hfs3 - I believe that on the "S" Clubman both the all-season and the performance tires are run-flats. The only non run-flat tires offered on the Clubman are the base model with 15" rims. "S" comes standard with 16" rims, and all 16" or larger rims only have run-flat tires, in either all-season or performance version.
Ah, that makes sense! Question is, are the performance tires so much better that I should bypass the all seasons and just go for the winter set?
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Careful with the 15 inch rims. Need to be sure they'll clear the front brake calipers which on the R56 are essentially R53 JCW calipers without red paint. Just be sure that the aftermarket 15's will fit over the front brakes. Only certain MINI wheels will.
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I don' think I want to go from 17" to 15" for snowies, unless there's a reason I should?
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well, yes...but maybe the 16" would suit you? I used to go from 16 to winter 15s...but I realize that the size of my tires aren't important from my point of view and I do like to save some bucks.
Oh yes - mea clupa - you're asking about an S not the regular Cooper...so perhaps those 15 inchers will not work for you anyway.
Oh yes - mea clupa - you're asking about an S not the regular Cooper...so perhaps those 15 inchers will not work for you anyway.
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Keep an eye on the NAM Marketplace forum. You can often get factory 16" wheels for a good price as people take them off to get 3rd party wheels.
I sold my 17" Crown Spokes with Dunlap runflats there to help pay for lighter wheels. A lot of people who plan on getting aftermarket wheels order the 16" factory wheels to save $$. So they should come up frequently.
If you don't find anything there, Rota RB 16x7s are available for less than $600.
I sold my 17" Crown Spokes with Dunlap runflats there to help pay for lighter wheels. A lot of people who plan on getting aftermarket wheels order the 16" factory wheels to save $$. So they should come up frequently.
If you don't find anything there, Rota RB 16x7s are available for less than $600.
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If my experience with our '06 S Hatchback with sport suspension and '08 S Clubman without sport suspension is helpful: I had factory "17 runflats on the '06 and they indeed were like driving on round bricks as bmbulbe pointed out. I bought a set of "15 Borbet wheels and Michelin Primacy MX4 195/60 R 15 88V tires (non runflat), all from Tire Rack who sent them mounted and balanced within about a week. The outside diameter of that combination is very close to the factory diameter, perhaps one more revolution or so per mile as I recall. The difference in ride is like night and day on the positive side, which I attribute to the fact there there are a couple more inches of tire filled with air under the car. I also started getting about one more mile per gallon according to the car's computer, which I read in one thread is due to the fact that it takes less mechanical effort to get (and keep) that setup rolling.
Because of that experience, I ordered the Clubman S without sport suspension and with 16" all season tires (can only get runflats on the S as miniclubman pointed out), hoping that combination would give me the most comfortable ride available from the factory, and my MA agreed. It came with Continental ContiPro Contact SSR 195/55 R 16 87V tires. As Nimcosi has pointed out (and ClubmanS in a different thread I believe), the newer runflats give a better ride and the combo I ordered gives a ride very similar to the '06 after the switch, and they both handle very well (but I don't AutoX either). So, I am happy. Of course, I live in Arizona so I don't have the winter tire issue to deal with .
I'd be very curious to know what would happen if someone put 15" non runflat tires on the Clubman S, keeping essentially the same outside diameter as the original factory 16" or 17" runflat setup if someone is in a position to make the comparison on an S or perhaps a non-S Clubman.
Because of that experience, I ordered the Clubman S without sport suspension and with 16" all season tires (can only get runflats on the S as miniclubman pointed out), hoping that combination would give me the most comfortable ride available from the factory, and my MA agreed. It came with Continental ContiPro Contact SSR 195/55 R 16 87V tires. As Nimcosi has pointed out (and ClubmanS in a different thread I believe), the newer runflats give a better ride and the combo I ordered gives a ride very similar to the '06 after the switch, and they both handle very well (but I don't AutoX either). So, I am happy. Of course, I live in Arizona so I don't have the winter tire issue to deal with .
I'd be very curious to know what would happen if someone put 15" non runflat tires on the Clubman S, keeping essentially the same outside diameter as the original factory 16" or 17" runflat setup if someone is in a position to make the comparison on an S or perhaps a non-S Clubman.
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