R55 Club door won't open
#27
Bummed....
I just picked up my very own Clubman a week ago today. In fact, I was preparing to upload the pictures I took that first day on this forum.
Today, while showing the car to a friend, I went to open the club door, expecting a heartening "ooo" and "ahhhh."
Instead, I was shocked when I couldn't open it! I pulled the handle repeatedly but to no avail! It simply would not open!
I guess I can take solace in knowing that I'm not the only person that has had this problem. But nevertheless I'm bummed since I only picked up my Clubman a week ago.
It seems this problem is more pervasive than just a few isolated incidences. I'm hoping that this will be an easy fix as it seems to have been for some.
I was really looking forward to enjoying my car this weekend. I normally don't drive it during the week since I usually take public transportation (to and from work, etc). Now I'll have to spend my Saturday driving up to the dealership, which is 85 miles away, to have them look at the problem.
Today, while showing the car to a friend, I went to open the club door, expecting a heartening "ooo" and "ahhhh."
Instead, I was shocked when I couldn't open it! I pulled the handle repeatedly but to no avail! It simply would not open!
I guess I can take solace in knowing that I'm not the only person that has had this problem. But nevertheless I'm bummed since I only picked up my Clubman a week ago.
It seems this problem is more pervasive than just a few isolated incidences. I'm hoping that this will be an easy fix as it seems to have been for some.
I was really looking forward to enjoying my car this weekend. I normally don't drive it during the week since I usually take public transportation (to and from work, etc). Now I'll have to spend my Saturday driving up to the dealership, which is 85 miles away, to have them look at the problem.
#28
Be sure that your dealership has the part in stock before you drive all those 85 miles up there! My dealership had to order the part because these cars are so new here, that they don't always have extra parts on hand.
As far as I know it's an easy fix...so if they have the part (which you may well have already checked), then it shouldn't take too long I wouldn't think...
I know it's disappointing...and kind of when you are trying to show off your new Clubman.
As far as I know it's an easy fix...so if they have the part (which you may well have already checked), then it shouldn't take too long I wouldn't think...
I know it's disappointing...and kind of when you are trying to show off your new Clubman.
#31
Hey, anyone else having this problem of the side Clubman door not opening more recently? I got my mini in July and I've had problems. It went back to the dealer for that plus I had a squeak in the back seat every time I went down rough patches of road. They fixed the door problem but now I couldn't open the door a couple of days ago. Today I opened it just fine. How is it it works one day and the next it doesn't budge? Frustrating.
I've had to have my mini in the shop already 2 times since I've gotten it for the squeak and now it may need to go back for the door.
I've had to have my mini in the shop already 2 times since I've gotten it for the squeak and now it may need to go back for the door.
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Hey, FYI
This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI M51 11 08 dated October 2008.
designates changes to this revision
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]SUBJECT[/SIZE][/FONT]
Club Door Opening Problems
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]MODEL[/SIZE][/FONT]
R55 (Cooper Clubman, Cooper S Clubman) produced up to 8/2008
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]SITUATION[/SIZE][/FONT]
Intermittently, when the passenger door is opened, the release lever on the club door does not release. As a result, the club door can not be opened via the pull handle on the inside of the door.
Manually pulling the release lever on the leading edge of the club door will allow it to be opened.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]CAUSE[/SIZE][/FONT]
The release lever on the club door is spring loaded so that it will release when the front door is opened. Incorrect Bowden cable routing leads to higher than expected static friction in the release lever mechanism which causes the release lever to stick in the depressed position.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]CORRECTION[/SIZE][/FONT]
Reroute and lubricate the Bowden cable for the release lever.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]PROCEDURE[/SIZE][/FONT]
Part Number
Description
Quantity
Locally sourced
Silicone lubricant spray
1
51 21 2 754 307
Release lever
1 – if needed
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]WARRANTY INFORMATION[/SIZE][/FONT]
Covered under the terms of the MINI New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code:
51 22 25 34 00
Labor Operation:
Labor Allowance:
Description:
51 42 021* **
Refer to KSD
Remove and install the club door trim panel
51 99 000
2 FRU
Work time to reroute the Bowden cable-if necessary
51 22 753 **
Refer to KSD
Remove and install the club door release lever-if
necessary
*Main Work - use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.
** Only one of these two labor operations may be claimed as the main labor operation is inclusive in the associated labor operation.
[SIZE=-2][ MINI, a division of BMW of North America, LLC[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]Copyright © 2008 BMW of North America, LLC ][/SIZE]
This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI M51 11 08 dated October 2008.
designates changes to this revision
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]SUBJECT[/SIZE][/FONT]
Club Door Opening Problems
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]MODEL[/SIZE][/FONT]
R55 (Cooper Clubman, Cooper S Clubman) produced up to 8/2008
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]SITUATION[/SIZE][/FONT]
Intermittently, when the passenger door is opened, the release lever on the club door does not release. As a result, the club door can not be opened via the pull handle on the inside of the door.
Manually pulling the release lever on the leading edge of the club door will allow it to be opened.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]CAUSE[/SIZE][/FONT]
The release lever on the club door is spring loaded so that it will release when the front door is opened. Incorrect Bowden cable routing leads to higher than expected static friction in the release lever mechanism which causes the release lever to stick in the depressed position.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]CORRECTION[/SIZE][/FONT]
Reroute and lubricate the Bowden cable for the release lever.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]PROCEDURE[/SIZE][/FONT]
- If the club door will not open, open the front door and pull the sticking release lever (1) away from the door. This will allow the door to be opened using the interior release handle.
- If the club door will not open, open the front door and pull the sticking release lever away from the door. This will allow the door to be opened using the interior release handle.
- Remove the club door trim panel per repair instruction RA 51 42 021.
- On the inside of the club door, inspect where the Bowden cable from the release lever (1) is routed through the door to the release handle. If the cable is routed through the outermost passage in the door (2), it must be removed and routed through the round inner passage (3) along with the 2 other cables.
- Spray a liberal amount of silicone spray into both ends of the Bowden cable.
- Only if the release lever is still stiff to move after performing steps 1-5, replace the release lever with an updated part. The updated release lever Bowden cable has a slightly more flexible sheathing, which allows the cable to move with less resistance. Steps 4 and 5 should be applied to the replacement release lever as well.
Part Number
Description
Quantity
Locally sourced
Silicone lubricant spray
1
51 21 2 754 307
Release lever
1 – if needed
[FONT=arial, helvetica, geneva][SIZE=2]WARRANTY INFORMATION[/SIZE][/FONT]
Covered under the terms of the MINI New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code:
51 22 25 34 00
Labor Operation:
Labor Allowance:
Description:
51 42 021* **
Refer to KSD
Remove and install the club door trim panel
51 99 000
2 FRU
Work time to reroute the Bowden cable-if necessary
51 22 753 **
Refer to KSD
Remove and install the club door release lever-if
necessary
*Main Work - use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.
** Only one of these two labor operations may be claimed as the main labor operation is inclusive in the associated labor operation.
[SIZE=-2][ MINI, a division of BMW of North America, LLC[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]Copyright © 2008 BMW of North America, LLC ][/SIZE]
#43
Our Clubdoor got stuck yesterday afternoon. It appears that the bottom plastic latch is not releasing all the way out when the front passenger door is opened. This is annoying to say the least. I sprayed some silicone on the bottom clubdoor latch release but in only improved some. The Clubdoor release latch is getting stuck 2 out of 3 opening tries.
I have sent my SA a copy of the TSB posted in this thread. Since our Clubman was built 1/2008 it falls within the range of affected vehicles. Maybe the stupid bowden cables inside the door need to be re-routed after all.
Annoying, annoying not to mention this is a safety issue. Always little annoying little problems with these cars because MINI can't seem to get basic mechanisms (Like a door latch) to work right from the get go.
-End of rant-
I have sent my SA a copy of the TSB posted in this thread. Since our Clubman was built 1/2008 it falls within the range of affected vehicles. Maybe the stupid bowden cables inside the door need to be re-routed after all.
Annoying, annoying not to mention this is a safety issue. Always little annoying little problems with these cars because MINI can't seem to get basic mechanisms (Like a door latch) to work right from the get go.
-End of rant-
Last edited by ClubmanS; 04-01-2009 at 10:04 AM.
#44
Sorry for the Clubdoor woes ClubmanS. I recently brought my Clubbie in for the headliner swap and I mentioned a squeaky rear seat latch and that the Clubdoor stuck once or twice. Both items were fixed (they did the reroute on the Clubdoor cable) and I've had no problems since. I hope it's not far to your dealer's, but I'm sure that they will fix it for you. Good luck!
#45
Thanks, Coopdy.
Yes, the car is booked in for tomorrow morning. Spraying some silicone did help but the latch is getting stuck about halfway when the front passenger door is opened. I think the "bowden" cables need to be re-routed inside the clubdoor. Not a biggie, but still inconvenient.
My dealer is 30 miles away and they do provide loaners, so that helps to mitigate some of the annoyance.
I wish the door had gotten stuck when I last took the car for maintenance 3 weeks ago. We'll see how it goes.
Yes, the car is booked in for tomorrow morning. Spraying some silicone did help but the latch is getting stuck about halfway when the front passenger door is opened. I think the "bowden" cables need to be re-routed inside the clubdoor. Not a biggie, but still inconvenient.
My dealer is 30 miles away and they do provide loaners, so that helps to mitigate some of the annoyance.
I wish the door had gotten stuck when I last took the car for maintenance 3 weeks ago. We'll see how it goes.
#46
I am happy to report that the Clubdoor opened perfectly fine, after repeated opening and close cycles, this morning. It seems the silicone is now well settled in the latch mechanism. It no longer sticks either
I still think this part has a design defect (Poor lubrication), but I can happily live with every few months shots of silicone spray.
I canceled my dealer appt. My SA told me had I brought the car in today, I would have had to stay overnight. A little too much IMHO. I told him that I am going to keep an eye on it and if the door gets stuck again beyond reason, then I'll show up to have the TSB applied.
I still think this part has a design defect (Poor lubrication), but I can happily live with every few months shots of silicone spray.
I canceled my dealer appt. My SA told me had I brought the car in today, I would have had to stay overnight. A little too much IMHO. I told him that I am going to keep an eye on it and if the door gets stuck again beyond reason, then I'll show up to have the TSB applied.
#47
Even after getting the new switch and cable, mine got stuck. The suggestion to use silicone on the switch was rigtht on target. I shot the stuff up into the little hole where the cable goes. It was happening after washing the car or getting it wet in foul weather. Have not had the problem since. DO NOT USE
#48
Even after getting the new switch and cable, mine got stuck. The suggestion to use silicone on the switch was rigtht on target. I shot the stuff up into the little hole where the cable goes. It was happening after washing the car or getting it wet in foul weather. Have not had the problem since. DO NOT USE AN OIL TYPE SOLVENT LIKE WD30 or it will goo up the mechanism. Has to be silicone lubricant. It has been many months since mine last stuck and the silicone has definately fixed this annoyance.
#49