R55 Factory iPod/Bluetooth cable question
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#52
Just took delivery of my 2009 Clubman S (I LOVE IT!!). I have the USB/ipod adapter and nav system. My MA told me that I should not leave the ipod connected when the car is off, as it wil drain the battery. Is this true? I don't see why that sould happen, especially if the ipod is fully charged.
I believe the person that had the problem found that they also had a problem with it when it was not connected to the car as well.
As for it the iPod battery draining "It should not" The way the system works there is charge voltage to the iPod while the radio system is on and for approximately 15 minutes after the car is turned off. After that the conncetion is not active and the battery of the iPod should not drian down unless there is a problem with the iPod.
#53
I have played with a few USB Sticks and not found one that sounds as good as the iPod.
Your experience with the sound will surely be different but i would be willing to bet that if you played a CD track in the car then played the same track on a newer generation iPod (g4 or g5 playing an AIFF file) and then a USB Stick (Playing a MP3 file at 256) you would also find that the CD sounds the best, the iPod second and the USB Stick third.
Your experience with the sound will surely be different but i would be willing to bet that if you played a CD track in the car then played the same track on a newer generation iPod (g4 or g5 playing an AIFF file) and then a USB Stick (Playing a MP3 file at 256) you would also find that the CD sounds the best, the iPod second and the USB Stick third.
The USB drive seems to have a warmer sound, smoother and more reserved highs with more mid-bass punch. The iPod USB interface has a cooler sound, crisper highs with more accurate bass although subdued.
It's hard to say that one is better than the other, as each person's tastes vary with respect to sound (i.e. very subjective). I like Rock/Pop/Electronic better with the flash drive, but Classical/Jazz/Acoustic is better with the iPod USB interface. I suppose I should just push the bass up on Rock/Pop music and leave it flat for the other stuff.
Great info schatzy62. This almost deserves a thread of its own, and I'd like to hear other opinions and comparisons between USB flash drive vs. iPod USB interface.
#54
Another big part of it is what type of DAC (D-to A converter) is used as well. I know that there have been some upgrades as well to the Mini COntroler box for the Bluetooth/USB so there may have been a better DAC put in the Mini. This would help the sound of the USB Stick, but not change the sound of the iPod as the iPod uses its own DAC to produce audio and then send it tot he AUX input. Newer iPods (last two years or so) have used a much better DAC so they will sound better than older iPods in the same Mini.
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#56
The above cable will work for getting the audio into the stereo but will not allow for transfer of the control to the stereo. There is no reason why that cable should not work as Apple has not changed the audio out connection for the iPhone or iPod as far as i can tell from the schematics of the cable for each.
The ONLY cable that will allow transfer of the iPod control to the is the one supplied by Mini.
As for charging of different iPods/iPhones it is dependant on the version of the iPod/iPhone AND the version of the Mini "Y-Cable"
The ONLY cable that will allow transfer of the iPod control to the is the one supplied by Mini.
As for charging of different iPods/iPhones it is dependant on the version of the iPod/iPhone AND the version of the Mini "Y-Cable"
#57
>> The ONLY cable that will allow transfer of the iPod control to the is the one supplied by Mini. <<
This is not true. The standard USB cable that comes with the iPod and connects to the iPod's dock connector will allow control of the iPod.
And, the 1/8" headphone out is NOT the only way to get sound from the iPod into the Mini's sound system. The same USB-Dock cable I mentioned above ALSO carries the sound:
"The ends of the connector each feature thirty pins which are designed to carry a variety of data. For example, pins two through six carry left and right audio..."
This is not true. The standard USB cable that comes with the iPod and connects to the iPod's dock connector will allow control of the iPod.
And, the 1/8" headphone out is NOT the only way to get sound from the iPod into the Mini's sound system. The same USB-Dock cable I mentioned above ALSO carries the sound:
"The ends of the connector each feature thirty pins which are designed to carry a variety of data. For example, pins two through six carry left and right audio..."
#58
>> The ONLY cable that will allow transfer of the iPod control to the is the one supplied by Mini. <<
This is not true. The standard USB cable that comes with the iPod and connects to the iPod's dock connector will allow control of the iPod.
And, the 1/8" headphone out is NOT the only way to get sound from the iPod into the Mini's sound system. The same USB-Dock cable I mentioned above ALSO carries the sound
This is not true. The standard USB cable that comes with the iPod and connects to the iPod's dock connector will allow control of the iPod.
And, the 1/8" headphone out is NOT the only way to get sound from the iPod into the Mini's sound system. The same USB-Dock cable I mentioned above ALSO carries the sound
#59
>> However, you can't use the dock connector for both control and sound without MINI's cable. <<
ARRRGGGHHHH!! Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a friggin' wall!! Read my lips: The standard iPod USB-Dock connector cable provides both audio and control capability. I cannot say it any more plainly than that.
I am using the iPod's standard USB-Dock cable and I have both audio and control capability!!
ARRRGGGHHHH!! Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a friggin' wall!! Read my lips: The standard iPod USB-Dock connector cable provides both audio and control capability. I cannot say it any more plainly than that.
I am using the iPod's standard USB-Dock cable and I have both audio and control capability!!
#60
Does anyone know are there any cable like this works for iPhone 3G? I have one of this for my BMW from aux to my iPod 3G and it works great (better quality and also allow using the steering wheel to adjust volume, but when I plug in my iPhone 3G, it has no sound). Can anyone help? Do they have cable like this for iPhone 3G?
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#61
ARRRGGGHHHH!! Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a friggin' wall!! Read my lips: The standard iPod USB-Dock connector cable provides both audio and control capability. I cannot say it any more plainly than that.
I am using the iPod's standard USB-Dock cable and I have both audio and control capability!!
I am using the iPod's standard USB-Dock cable and I have both audio and control capability!!
#64
>> But isn't this setup kind of a waste of an iPod? <<
How so? It's doing what I want it to do - play music in my car.
>> I guess if you only use it in your MINI it might be OK.<<
Exactly. I have a Sansa E280 (solid state player) for rough and tumble outdoor stuff. The iPod sits snugly in its little well beneath the USB jack, out of sight and nicely wedged in.
>> Do you hate using iTunes too? <<
No, not really hate. In fact, I find it easy to use for what I do, which is drag and drop MP3s from the My Music folder on my PC onto the iPod. It works really well for that. But I do not like the idea of the software determining what I can and cannot listen to and such. The way I have it working right now suits me to a T...
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How so? It's doing what I want it to do - play music in my car.
>> I guess if you only use it in your MINI it might be OK.<<
Exactly. I have a Sansa E280 (solid state player) for rough and tumble outdoor stuff. The iPod sits snugly in its little well beneath the USB jack, out of sight and nicely wedged in.
>> Do you hate using iTunes too? <<
No, not really hate. In fact, I find it easy to use for what I do, which is drag and drop MP3s from the My Music folder on my PC onto the iPod. It works really well for that. But I do not like the idea of the software determining what I can and cannot listen to and such. The way I have it working right now suits me to a T...
Best Wishes,
#65
I've connected the Y cable to the ports in the dashboard but I can't control my iPod through the stereo/nav screen. I also do not get the acessory connected screen in my iPod. I can hear the sound and control music through the iPod. Maybe my USB port is not working (?). Did anyone have similar issue? I had some trouble connecting the cable to the USB port but eventually I think I got it connected. Is there anything else you should do (like turn the iPod on/off, the nav screen on/off...)?
#66
I've connected the Y cable to the ports in the dashboard but I can't control my iPod through the stereo/nav screen. I also do not get the acessory connected screen in my iPod. I can hear the sound and control music through the iPod. Maybe my USB port is not working (?). Did anyone have similar issue? I had some trouble connecting the cable to the USB port but eventually I think I got it connected. Is there anything else you should do (like turn the iPod on/off, the nav screen on/off...)?
#68
You should be okay as long as it has not been reformatted to NTFS. It needs to be formatted as FAT32. If you do not understand what i am talking about then you have nothing to worry about it should work, They come standard as FAT32 formatting.
#69
Tks! Unfortunately my USB was broken. A small piece of the car connector got stuck inside connector in the usb cable - it is a black plastic part, which I believe helps leading the cable to the terminals inside the USB jack. Now I have to find a way to get it fixed. Do you think it would be possible to change the connector with a regular pc one? Unfortunately I am in Brazil and there are no mini dealers here yet.
#70
Tks! Unfortunately my USB was broken. A small piece of the car connector got stuck inside connector in the usb cable - it is a black plastic part, which I believe helps leading the cable to the terminals inside the USB jack. Now I have to find a way to get it fixed. Do you think it would be possible to change the connector with a regular pc one? Unfortunately I am in Brazil and there are no mini dealers here yet.
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