R55 Clubman "S" with 16" wheels
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Interesting question, and one that I attempted to answer for myself....
I have an '09 Clubman S that came with 16" Bridge spokes and runflats, at about 3000 miles I put on my 17" S lites with Kumho non-run flats. I can't say I felt any difference in the ride quality, but the handling was sharper and better - which I put down to the Kumho tires vs the OEM Conti runflats.
Point is, it will all depend on your tire choice, IMHO.
I have an '09 Clubman S that came with 16" Bridge spokes and runflats, at about 3000 miles I put on my 17" S lites with Kumho non-run flats. I can't say I felt any difference in the ride quality, but the handling was sharper and better - which I put down to the Kumho tires vs the OEM Conti runflats.
Point is, it will all depend on your tire choice, IMHO.
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Hi Folks,
Hope someone is still monitoring this- I'm in desperate need of tires for my 09 clubbie S with 16" wheels. I'm currently running the OEM Continental Runflats (I think they're procontacts?) 195/55/16. I've called tire rack for quotes (my MINI dealership wants two arms, two legs and my first born for a set of 4 tires) and they suggested the Bridgestone Potenza G 019 Grid (a non-runflat tire) which I'm interested in. We don't get much snow (maybe a full inch cumulative all winter), but we do get rain, and I live in teh country and drive about 100miles a day with kids... without kids I'm driving back roads (read twisties) and driving them very, uh, spiritedly (is that a word?)...
My local tire place will only put OEM's on Mocha, but there's another tire place recommended by Tire Rack about 20 miles away (told you I was out there).
Big question- does anyone know if there are any suspension issues for our clubbies if we switch from OEM's to non-runflats...
Oh, and disclaimer here- my husband told me what to ask... all I know is my tires are bald and I'm not feeling too safe driving my kiddos around like that (we just got over 3" rain in one day, which has been typical recently)...
Thanks-
Hi Folks,
Hope someone is still monitoring this- I'm in desperate need of tires for my 09 clubbie S with 16" wheels. I'm currently running the OEM Continental Runflats (I think they're procontacts?) 195/55/16. I've called tire rack for quotes (my MINI dealership wants two arms, two legs and my first born for a set of 4 tires) and they suggested the Bridgestone Potenza G 019 Grid (a non-runflat tire) which I'm interested in. We don't get much snow (maybe a full inch cumulative all winter), but we do get rain, and I live in teh country and drive about 100miles a day with kids... without kids I'm driving back roads (read twisties) and driving them very, uh, spiritedly (is that a word?)...
My local tire place will only put OEM's on Mocha, but there's another tire place recommended by Tire Rack about 20 miles away (told you I was out there).
Big question- does anyone know if there are any suspension issues for our clubbies if we switch from OEM's to non-runflats...
Oh, and disclaimer here- my husband told me what to ask... all I know is my tires are bald and I'm not feeling too safe driving my kiddos around like that (we just got over 3" rain in one day, which has been typical recently)...
Thanks-
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For an area with heavy rain, the most important thing is going to be having FULL TREAD DEPTH on the car. No matter what tire you go with, the more tread you have, the more deep grooves for water to escape. With any tire, the deep water performance goes down as the tread wears down. So get those bald tires off there post haste!
--Dan
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Thank you so much Dan,
I'm calling tire rack today and setting up an appointment with the tire place far, far away. The rep at tire rack did recommend a product called continetal compi comfort kit, which seems to be a modern betterer version of fix-a-flat and supposedly even works with runflats. Around here, picking up a nail is the biggest concern (we had a tornado come thru about 2 years ago and after heavy rains, all sorts of stuff washes into the road way).
Another quick question- somewhat related- would I notice a handling difference, say on the Dragon? I'm guessing that with the softer ride, even in sports mode it will require a tad of compensation? I have some Dragon-esque back roads here that I, uh, enjoy...
Thanks again and I'm getting those baldies off asap! (oh, and just for reassurance sake, I've got a Ford F350 I've been using in the bad weather, altho with the winds we've got and the higher profile of the F350... well, it's all a trade off!)
Happy Holidays!
~Vivi
I'm calling tire rack today and setting up an appointment with the tire place far, far away. The rep at tire rack did recommend a product called continetal compi comfort kit, which seems to be a modern betterer version of fix-a-flat and supposedly even works with runflats. Around here, picking up a nail is the biggest concern (we had a tornado come thru about 2 years ago and after heavy rains, all sorts of stuff washes into the road way).
Another quick question- somewhat related- would I notice a handling difference, say on the Dragon? I'm guessing that with the softer ride, even in sports mode it will require a tad of compensation? I have some Dragon-esque back roads here that I, uh, enjoy...
Thanks again and I'm getting those baldies off asap! (oh, and just for reassurance sake, I've got a Ford F350 I've been using in the bad weather, altho with the winds we've got and the higher profile of the F350... well, it's all a trade off!)
Happy Holidays!
~Vivi
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My dilemma is, I just got my MCCS w/ the 16" all-season runflats... and now:
Do I keep (for summer) and get snow tires w/ new wheels?
Do I keep (for winter) and get summer rubber w/ new wheels? 17?
Ideally I wish I found someone that said "oh great give me the 16 all seasons here have these 16 winters", or "i want your all seasons have these 17 summers"... otherwise I feel like Im wasting money...
Do I keep (for summer) and get snow tires w/ new wheels?
Do I keep (for winter) and get summer rubber w/ new wheels? 17?
Ideally I wish I found someone that said "oh great give me the 16 all seasons here have these 16 winters", or "i want your all seasons have these 17 summers"... otherwise I feel like Im wasting money...
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Thank you so much Dan,
I'm calling tire rack today and setting up an appointment with the tire place far, far away. The rep at tire rack did recommend a product called continetal compi comfort kit, which seems to be a modern betterer version of fix-a-flat and supposedly even works with runflats. Around here, picking up a nail is the biggest concern (we had a tornado come thru about 2 years ago and after heavy rains, all sorts of stuff washes into the road way).
Another quick question- somewhat related- would I notice a handling difference, say on the Dragon? I'm guessing that with the softer ride, even in sports mode it will require a tad of compensation? I have some Dragon-esque back roads here that I, uh, enjoy...
Thanks again and I'm getting those baldies off asap! (oh, and just for reassurance sake, I've got a Ford F350 I've been using in the bad weather, altho with the winds we've got and the higher profile of the F350... well, it's all a trade off!)
Happy Holidays!
~Vivi
I'm calling tire rack today and setting up an appointment with the tire place far, far away. The rep at tire rack did recommend a product called continetal compi comfort kit, which seems to be a modern betterer version of fix-a-flat and supposedly even works with runflats. Around here, picking up a nail is the biggest concern (we had a tornado come thru about 2 years ago and after heavy rains, all sorts of stuff washes into the road way).
Another quick question- somewhat related- would I notice a handling difference, say on the Dragon? I'm guessing that with the softer ride, even in sports mode it will require a tad of compensation? I have some Dragon-esque back roads here that I, uh, enjoy...
Thanks again and I'm getting those baldies off asap! (oh, and just for reassurance sake, I've got a Ford F350 I've been using in the bad weather, altho with the winds we've got and the higher profile of the F350... well, it's all a trade off!)
Happy Holidays!
~Vivi
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actually when i went from the runflats to the potenza's on my clubman (16" bridgespokes) i think the added softness affected the turn in. kinda like you turn the wheel and then you could feel the car thinking about it before committing. next time i get tires i'm going to go down a size or two on the thickness ratio.
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I use the runflats for winter and put my 17" Kumho all seasons on for the rest of the year - it works out to about 3 -4 months on the runflats, and the rest of the year on the Kumhos - the only real reason I'm doing this is that the Kumho's are about 2/3 worn, otherwise I'd run them year round. The runflats are a bit stiffer, but I haven't noticed that much difference in ride quality - but the Kumhos are a better tire all around - more grip, smoother yet sharper turn-in and quieter
I bought a set of Nitto Neo Gens for my '03 MCS and they seem to have much deeper tread - TNMama I'd consider a set of them for your clubby, all season, high performance and non-run flat, good in the rain and snow and seem to grip like mad when driven in a spirited manner, based on a recent trip on some Northern Arkansas back roads.
I agree with the poster who said the Clubbies ride a bit smoother than than a coupe, I definitely can see a difference in my two cars......
Tires are a very personal choice, what seems to give good results to one will be totally unsuitable to another - there is no blanket answer for everyone, so all you can do is put up your $$ and try them.
TattedXB, the Kumho's I bought from Tire rack and were about $500 shipped and installed at the local NTB. The Nitto Neo Gens I bought from the local NTB store, and after some comparison shopping on the net, they matched the best price I found, so they were only about $425 installed - a pretty good deal IMHO. Both sets are 215/45-17's and both are Ultra high performance all season non run flats. Since that's a slight oversize from OEM, it actually got my speedo to read correctly!
I bought a set of Nitto Neo Gens for my '03 MCS and they seem to have much deeper tread - TNMama I'd consider a set of them for your clubby, all season, high performance and non-run flat, good in the rain and snow and seem to grip like mad when driven in a spirited manner, based on a recent trip on some Northern Arkansas back roads.
I agree with the poster who said the Clubbies ride a bit smoother than than a coupe, I definitely can see a difference in my two cars......
Tires are a very personal choice, what seems to give good results to one will be totally unsuitable to another - there is no blanket answer for everyone, so all you can do is put up your $$ and try them.
TattedXB, the Kumho's I bought from Tire rack and were about $500 shipped and installed at the local NTB. The Nitto Neo Gens I bought from the local NTB store, and after some comparison shopping on the net, they matched the best price I found, so they were only about $425 installed - a pretty good deal IMHO. Both sets are 215/45-17's and both are Ultra high performance all season non run flats. Since that's a slight oversize from OEM, it actually got my speedo to read correctly!
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