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R55 Regarding ease of resale: manual or auto?

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Old 11-08-2012 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by flatlander_48
No. Once the driver hits a paddle to activate the shift sequence, the shift is completed in a handfull of milliseconds. I think it is on the order of 30 milliseconds or so which would be .030 seconds. By comparison, blinking your eyes once takes 300 to 400 milliseconds or .300 to .400 seconds.
You are mistaking the AISIN transmission in the mini, which is a traditional automatic with a fluid driven torque converter, for a dual clutch transmission. Just because you have paddle shifters does not mean you have a dual clutch gearbox.
 
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Old 11-08-2012 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flatlander_48
No, just to put it into perspective. However, in order to quibble over something, I would have had to give a time for the shift to take place in the street car, but I didn't do that.
Good - what's a few milliseconds amongst fellow MINI owners?
 
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Old 11-09-2012 | 06:21 AM
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No, the original message attempted to make a comparison between his automatic and an F-1 gearbox. My point was that there is at least an Order of Magnitude between the two and probably much more. I don't know what DCT shift times are offhand, but I'm pretty sure they are not in the F-1 realm yet.


Originally Posted by borderwave2
You are mistaking the AISIN transmission in the mini, which is a traditional automatic with a fluid driven torque converter, for a dual clutch transmission. Just because you have paddle shifters does not mean you have a dual clutch gearbox.
 
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Old 11-21-2012 | 10:00 PM
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Driving an auto with paddles is a different kind of driving experience vs the manual. For those that don't care for the F1 style paddleshift can use the gear shifter in manual +/- mode. It feels somewhat like its a manual clutch car.
 
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