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Old 08-21-2017 | 07:07 PM
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Looking at 2012 Clubman S with 46k miles...

Hello

Supposedly it's a one owner car, it's very clean except for tiny scratches middle of drivers door, you can see where it was touched up by a non-pro

It's $12,500

Seems perfect, question is, would you trust this car on a 1,200 mile road trip?

Getting really close to pulling the trigger on picking up a used Clubman S and starting to think about reliability in general day to day and the occasional road trip

Matthew
 
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Old 08-21-2017 | 07:50 PM
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N18 engine should be pretty reliable. Find out if the high pressure fuel pump and water pump have been replaced. You can also ask the seller for a carfax for history.
 
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Old 08-21-2017 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthewd5
Hello

Supposedly it's a one owner car, it's very clean except for tiny scratches middle of drivers door, you can see where it was touched up by a non-pro

It's $12,500

Seems perfect, question is, would you trust this car on a 1,200 mile road trip?

Getting really close to pulling the trigger on picking up a used Clubman S and starting to think about reliability in general day to day and the occasional road trip

Matthew
Get me the vin and I can run AutoCheck for you. I have 10 left I can run.
 
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Old 08-21-2017 | 09:41 PM
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Doesn't sound bad, but I'd still have it inspected prior to purchase to make sure there is no surprises.
 
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Old 08-22-2017 | 07:28 AM
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Get me the vin and I can run AutoCheck for you. I have 10 left I can run.

Thank You!

WMWZG3C54CTY32243
 
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Old 08-22-2017 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
Doesn't sound bad, but I'd still have it inspected prior to purchase to make sure there is no surprises.
It's at a Mini dealer and they said they ran a level 3 diagnostic and that's the same thing I'd have it done

It also has a 60 day warranty

Matthew
 
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Old 08-22-2017 | 07:55 AM
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Looks clean:
https://www.carstory.com/detail/2012...ZG3C54CTY32243

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=VAS_0

CarFax shows two owners, and not much else. If it drives nice, and looks decent underneath, then I would have no issue taking it on a long road trip.
 
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Old 08-22-2017 | 08:11 AM
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I bought mine (2009 Clubby JCW) in Austin, TX. Drove it back to NY, no problem other than cooking a fairly worn rear tire at the tail of the dragon. Very comfortable on the trip though.
 
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Old 08-22-2017 | 08:50 AM
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2012 MINI Cooper Clubman S

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Report run date: August 22, 2017 9:47:21 EDT

VIN: WMWZG3C54CTY32243
Year: 2012
Make: MINI
Model: Cooper Clubman S
Style/Body: Hatchback 2D
Class: Sport Car - Touring
Engine: 1.6L I4 DI
Country of Assembly: Germany
Vehicle Age: 5

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02/23/2016 26,359
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Vehicle: 2012 MINI Cooper Clubman S (WMWZG3C54CTY32243)

Event Date : 08/11/2012
Event Location : WALTHAM, MA
Data Source : Motor Vehicle Dept.
Event Detail : REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Event Date : 08/31/2012
Event Location : WALTHAM, MA
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Odometer Reading : 202
Event Detail : TITLE (Title #:BL583968) (Lien Reported)
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Event Date : 06/10/2015
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Event Date : 02/23/2016
Event Location : NEW ENGLAND REGION,
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Odometer Reading : 26,359
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Event Date : 03/03/2016
Event Location : HAVERHILL, MA
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Event Date : 03/18/2016
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Old 08-22-2017 | 06:31 PM
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Thank You!

It's great to have all that info, I appreciate it

Matthew
 
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Old 08-22-2017 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by njaremka
N18 engine should be pretty reliable. Find out if the high pressure fuel pump and water pump have been replaced. You can also ask the seller for a carfax for history.
I second this, that's what I've replaced on my 2012 S with 41k miles along with thermostat.
 
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Old 08-24-2017 | 09:06 AM
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This would not factor into my buying decision. If your date of manufacture (from driver door jam) is 4/2012 and later you get the Bosch fuels pump instead of the older Continental.

From RealOEM.com
N14 HPFP part# 13517588879 (not work with N18) Continental

N18 HPFP part# 13517592429 used Jun-10 to Mar-12. Continental. Won’t work with build date 4/12 and later to head, computer, harness, fuel rail.
N18 HPFP part# 13517630644 3/01/12 - 3/14 Bosch
N18 HPFP part# 13518605102 3/17/12 ->


At some point mid 2012 the metal water pump came in, but I don't know the date. You can see water pump on lower passenger (USA passenger) side from underneath.

Sounds like a great Clubby!
 

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Old 08-28-2017 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cargusjoh
This would not factor into my buying decision. If your date of manufacture (from driver door jam) is 4/2012 and later you get the Bosch fuels pump instead of the older Continental.

From RealOEM.com
N14 HPFP part# 13517588879 (not work with N18) Continental

N18 HPFP part# 13517592429 used Jun-10 to Mar-12. Continental. Won’t work with build date 4/12 and later to head, computer, harness, fuel rail.
N18 HPFP part# 13517630644 3/01/12 - 3/14 Bosch
N18 HPFP part# 13518605102 3/17/12 ->


At some point mid 2012 the metal water pump came in, but I don't know the date. You can see water pump on lower passenger (USA passenger) side from underneath.

Sounds like a great Clubby!
Great info. Op, the reason this is being brought up is because the continental fuel pump only lasts about 35k miles and costs 1,000 dollars parts only. The bosch seems to last longer so far. Both cannot be retrofitted to the other.
 
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Old 09-06-2017 | 02:26 PM
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Hi did you buy this Clubby? I hope so and that your trip was uneventful
 




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