R55 Oil Catch Can
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Oil Catch Can
Well today was the day I decided to empty the oil catch can. I’m getting an oil change in the morning so I thought I would be nice and empty it for them. This is 2000 miles, I put around a 1000 on before the OCC, and yes I need to use glass or a better container as the gas started eating the solo cup this turning it red as you see. I clearly need to check it every week or two, not 2000 miles. I do have the valve cover blocked off that leads to throttle or intake. The OCC pics are 2 days before it was deleted. If your thinking about doing an OCC do it, this OCC cost me less than 50 bucks off amazon.
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minidd99 (02-06-2020)
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There definitely is more water/gas than oil. I’m still getting 30 mpg per tank, drive it in sport mode only, and she does she 100 plus mph at least 4 days a week during 40 mile round trip to work.
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#6
So something about this type of OCC installation. The crankcase ventilation system on the N14 is pretty complex. This installation of an OCC seems to be the most common since it is the easiest to manufacture and install. The thing though is that the circuit this is being installed on is the boost side of the ventilation system. It is only in operation when there is no vacuum in the intake manifold and the check valve in the vacuum circuit closes. At idle and under most driving conditions I would venture a guess that this circuit isn't even in operation and the vacuum circuit is handling the ventilation.
I have been researching OCC's and I see almost no one makes a specific solution for the vacuum circuit of the ventilation system (tap comes off the passenger side of the valve cover). I can totally understand why though as that circuit requires a lot more design consideration. It can be under full vacuum as well as full boost and cannot leak. The boost circuit is under ambient pressure so you don't have to be as careful in the design to ensure proper sealing. The motive force for the venting would be any positive pressure in the crankcase and that would only really occur when there is significant blow-by in the rings (boosting).
I have a vacuum circuit OCC coming from GT Tuning that I am going to install on my JCW N14. I currently do not plan on installing one on the boost circuit. My main goal is to try and prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves and I think that the vacuum circuit OCC will have more effect on this. The boost circuit is not in operation as much and the gases vented have a good long way to go which should allow the entrained oil to settle out (yes it will end up in the intercooler, oh well).
I have been researching OCC's and I see almost no one makes a specific solution for the vacuum circuit of the ventilation system (tap comes off the passenger side of the valve cover). I can totally understand why though as that circuit requires a lot more design consideration. It can be under full vacuum as well as full boost and cannot leak. The boost circuit is under ambient pressure so you don't have to be as careful in the design to ensure proper sealing. The motive force for the venting would be any positive pressure in the crankcase and that would only really occur when there is significant blow-by in the rings (boosting).
I have a vacuum circuit OCC coming from GT Tuning that I am going to install on my JCW N14. I currently do not plan on installing one on the boost circuit. My main goal is to try and prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves and I think that the vacuum circuit OCC will have more effect on this. The boost circuit is not in operation as much and the gases vented have a good long way to go which should allow the entrained oil to settle out (yes it will end up in the intercooler, oh well).
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So something about this type of OCC installation. The crankcase ventilation system on the N14 is pretty complex. This installation of an OCC seems to be the most common since it is the easiest to manufacture and install. The thing though is that the circuit this is being installed on is the boost side of the ventilation system. It is only in operation when there is no vacuum in the intake manifold and the check valve in the vacuum circuit closes. At idle and under most driving conditions I would venture a guess that this circuit isn't even in operation and the vacuum circuit is handling the ventilation.
I have been researching OCC's and I see almost no one makes a specific solution for the vacuum circuit of the ventilation system (tap comes off the passenger side of the valve cover). I can totally understand why though as that circuit requires a lot more design consideration. It can be under full vacuum as well as full boost and cannot leak. The boost circuit is under ambient pressure so you don't have to be as careful in the design to ensure proper sealing. The motive force for the venting would be any positive pressure in the crankcase and that would only really occur when there is significant blow-by in the rings (boosting).
I have a vacuum circuit OCC coming from GT Tuning that I am going to install on my JCW N14. I currently do not plan on installing one on the boost circuit. My main goal is to try and prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves and I think that the vacuum circuit OCC will have more effect on this. The boost circuit is not in operation as much and the gases vented have a good long way to go which should allow the entrained oil to settle out (yes it will end up in the intercooler, oh well).
I have been researching OCC's and I see almost no one makes a specific solution for the vacuum circuit of the ventilation system (tap comes off the passenger side of the valve cover). I can totally understand why though as that circuit requires a lot more design consideration. It can be under full vacuum as well as full boost and cannot leak. The boost circuit is under ambient pressure so you don't have to be as careful in the design to ensure proper sealing. The motive force for the venting would be any positive pressure in the crankcase and that would only really occur when there is significant blow-by in the rings (boosting).
I have a vacuum circuit OCC coming from GT Tuning that I am going to install on my JCW N14. I currently do not plan on installing one on the boost circuit. My main goal is to try and prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves and I think that the vacuum circuit OCC will have more effect on this. The boost circuit is not in operation as much and the gases vented have a good long way to go which should allow the entrained oil to settle out (yes it will end up in the intercooler, oh well).
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#8
I REALLY do not recommend that! Everything I have read indicates that simply blocking off that port can cause more problems than it solves. Chief among them, you eliminate the vacuum in the crankcase that was designed for. One side effect I have read is that the bearings in the turbo need that vacuum to scavenge the oil back to in the return line otherwise they can overpressure and leak oil into the turbine side.
In any case, it seems to be working for you but I tend to try and not change the basic design of a system I am not 100% familiar with.
In any case, it seems to be working for you but I tend to try and not change the basic design of a system I am not 100% familiar with.
#9
I also would be hesitant to think you are solving anything by blocking off the intake port on the cam cover. Best solution would be to install an oil catch can on that side in addition to the one you have on the intake side. The engine was designed to utilize both of those circuits, and blocking one would likely cause other issues.
#11
I blocked off the PCV line to the throttle body and put an oil catch can on the PCV line to the turbocharger inlet ten years ago and I haven't had any issues. The main reason was to eliminate the path for oil vapor to get to the intake valves and prevent carbon build up. I haven't looked at my intake valves, but the engine hasn't shown any symptoms of carbon buildup either.
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I blocked off the PCV line to the throttle body and put an oil catch can on the PCV line to the turbocharger inlet ten years ago and I haven't had any issues. The main reason was to eliminate the path for oil vapor to get to the intake valves and prevent carbon build up. I haven't looked at my intake valves, but the engine hasn't shown any symptoms of carbon buildup either.
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#14
R55 105k
Is it worth it to install an oil catch can on an N14 R55 at 105K. I’ve just about gotten all the oil leaks fixed. Last step is new calavera cover / pvc, so wondering if it’s worth it to install and oil catch can at 105K or did I miss the boat and at this point it’s not gonna make a difference.
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Is it worth it to install an oil catch can on an N14 R55 at 105K. I’ve just about gotten all the oil leaks fixed. Last step is new calavera cover / pvc, so wondering if it’s worth it to install and oil catch can at 105K or did I miss the boat and at this point it’s not gonna make a difference.
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ZRXChris (04-17-2020)
#16
I know this is a bit of an old thread, but I'm hoping you could give me some advice! That catch can doesn't look like the $300+ dollar one that minimania sells, or any of the somewhat official and expensive catch cans that are 'designed for minis'. Could you tell me which one you have? I'd love to save some money on the one that I'm planning on purchasing, but I'm not too sure what to get.
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I know this is a bit of an old thread, but I'm hoping you could give me some advice! That catch can doesn't look like the $300+ dollar one that minimania sells, or any of the somewhat official and expensive catch cans that are 'designed for minis'. Could you tell me which one you have? I'd love to save some money on the one that I'm planning on purchasing, but I'm not too sure what to get.
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