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Old 08-24-2007 | 08:24 PM
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Peugot or Citroen

Does anyone know for certain whether the R56 engine is of Peugot or Citroen manufacture/design? Lot's of talk both ways.
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 08:34 PM
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Yep, Pew Joe.....
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Does anyone know for certain whether the R56 engine is of Peugeot or Citroen manufacture/design? Lot's of talk both ways.
This engine is a collaboration between Mini, Peugeot and Citroen. The parts are manufactured by the PSA Peugeot Citroen plant, with final assembly at Mini's Hams Hall.
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sowellman
This engine is a collaboration between Mini, Peugeot and Citroen. The parts are manufactured by the PSA Peugeot Citroen plant, with final assembly at Mini's Hams Hall.
Hence my confusion. Thanks for clearing it up.
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 09:06 PM
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Peugeot and Citron were guinea pigs for our MINI's. MINI's rule the world!!!
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 10:30 PM
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my ma told me that the turbo is peugeot
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 10:37 PM
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Somewhat ironic since Citroen was so upset when the original Mini cleaned their clock at the Monte Carlo Rally.
 
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Old 08-24-2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin Casady
Somewhat ironic since Citroen was so upset when the original Mini cleaned their clock at the Monte Carlo Rally.
Maybe Mini should go back to rallying. Maybe that will teach BMW what LSDs are for, since they're so reluctant to put them in their cars, other than the Ms.
 
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Old 08-25-2007 | 12:43 AM
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My Z3 had it too. Not an M.
 
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Old 08-25-2007 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxdriver
my ma told me that the turbo is peugeot
i have to say when i read this i read ma as in mother not MA as in motoring assistant and got a much funnier visual!
 
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Old 08-25-2007 | 09:29 AM
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i have to say when i read this i read ma as in mother not MA as in motoring assistant and got a much funnier visual!
Me too, I thought he was referring to motherly advice.
 
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Old 08-25-2007 | 10:14 AM
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^^ . "No its for me ma'. Im kinda partial to ta periwinkle blue" (******, great movie!).
Ill caps MA next time. Good stuff.
 

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Old 08-25-2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxdriver
my ma told me that the turbo is peugeot
I thought I read somewhere that the turbo is a Borg Warner K03, twin scroll variety. Similar to the one used in the Audi 2.0T
 
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Old 08-25-2007 | 10:33 AM
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^^ I havent heard that. Im curious, ill check it out and post any findings. Anyone with any insight on this?
 

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Old 08-25-2007 | 11:49 AM
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So what is a "Prince" engine.
 
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Old 08-26-2007 | 06:04 AM
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It is a BW turbo

Originally Posted by wrxdriver
^^ I havent heard that. Im curious, ill check it out and post any findings. Anyone with any insight on this?
The full number on the MCS turbo is 5303 970 01 18. The 5303 is the frame with 03 signifying the K03 series (according to references on the internet).

Here's a thread. I've not seend a compressor map yet, but the fact some tuners are getting the stock turbo up to 17 psi is encouraging.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=102987

-JL
 
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Old 08-26-2007 | 06:18 AM
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MINI's rule the world!!!
Sums up my sentiments nicely.
 
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Old 08-26-2007 | 09:56 PM
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Just a working nickname for the 2007 engine class.

Originally Posted by amazonracer
So what is a "Prince" engine.
 
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Old 08-26-2007 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jlevy
The full number on the MCS turbo is 5303 970 01 18. The 5303 is the frame with 03 signifying the K03 series (according to references on the internet).

Here's a thread. I've not seend a compressor map yet, but the fact some tuners are getting the stock turbo up to 17 psi is encouraging.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=102987

-JL
Thanks. I love facts.
 
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Old 08-27-2007 | 05:10 AM
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I heard from a Renault engine engineer that basically BMW designed the Mini engine in exchange for Peugeot to provide small diesel to BMW (Peugeot is one of the best small diesel engines in Europe). Peugeot apparently also manufactures the 1.6l gas engine too.

Make what you want of it.
 
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