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Old 11-05-2007, 04:08 AM
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My R56 1/4 Times

I stuck it in drag racing also, but also in here case not everyone looks at the racing sections..
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My R56 1/4 Mile Times
I went up to the track over the weekend, first time there with this car.
Weather was about 66-70 degress..

Sport Button ON, ASC OFF.

*best run:1st Run: 14.4 @ 95
2nd Run:15.106 @ 93.93 - 60' 2.3
3rd Run:14.826@96.11
4th Run:14.669 @ 95.67 - 60' 2.4
5th Run:15.072@95.64
 
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:48 AM
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Hello, I am from Argentina, so my english is no too good.

I want to ask you if you have a stock car or you change something?
 
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Not bad. Not the usual MINI format, but not bad.

Enjoy!
 
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Is your car stock? If so, that's pretty impressive!
 
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Originally Posted by junior1459
I stuck it in drag racing also, but also in here case not everyone looks at the racing sections..
Thanks..

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=118977


My R56 1/4 Mile Times
I went up to the track over the weekend, first time there with this car.
Weather was about 66-70 degress..

Sport Button ON, ASC OFF.

*best run:1st Run: 14.4 @ 95
2nd Run:15.106 @ 93.93 - 60' 2.3
3rd Run:14.826@96.11
4th Run:14.669 @ 95.67 - 60' 2.4
5th Run:15.072@95.64

Is this with a totally std R56MCS and if so what's the weight inc. driver ?.
 
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Yeah that tramp speed is what i expect from this car, i bet the JCW engine kit does it at 98ish. with low 14's.
 
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:57 AM
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Yeah that tramp speed is what i expect from this car, i bet the JCW engine kit does it at 98ish. with low 14's.
That is one of the reasons i am interested as i have the JCW Stage 1 kit fitted.

I agree with your above times as i think this is a sub 15 sec 0-100 car. However this just shows how much the power ratings on the R56 are underrated by MINI. On a 2650lbs car you need around 220bhp ( flywheel ) to run a 98mph in low 14's.
 
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Originally Posted by japper
On a 2650lbs car you need around 220bhp ( flywheel ) to run a 98mph in low 14's.
my 5 speed Type R used to run 14.3 at 98, with 180hp and 140ft.lbs....street tires. I really think the JCW engine kit with the higher n(then a stock r56 not a type r :P) rev limit the fact that the r56 has and extra gear it should do it. But your right it should have a little more power to do it.....we have to see a decent driver do it, get the 60 foot to 2.3ish..
 

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Old 11-05-2007, 09:51 AM
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My R56 1/4 Mile Times
I went up to the track over the weekend, first time there with this car.
Weather was about 66-70 degress..

Sport Button ON, ASC OFF.

*best run:1st Run: 14.4 @ 95
2nd Run:15.106 @ 93.93 - 60' 2.3
3rd Run:14.826@96.11
4th Run:14.669 @ 95.67 - 60' 2.4
5th Run:15.072@95.64
That is a pretty impressive measure of how quick the standard R56 is - your driving seems to be pretty good too.

What does your MINI look like - ie, what tires and wheels and options are on the car?
 
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:38 AM
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Jeez. I'm guessing you are at or near sea level, right? I seriously doubt I could run high 14s at my altitude (5,000+ feet!)
 
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So, anyone know if Junior's car is stock?
 
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What RPM did you launch at??
 
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Jeez. I'm guessing you are at or near sea level, right? I seriously doubt I could run high 14s at my altitude (5,000+ feet!)
I am guessing it would be tough to duplicate such quick times in Albuquerque... the one caveat being that Forced Induction engines are not (as) negatively affected by altitude as Normally Aspirated engines are. I came across a calculator online that breaks down power loss into something like 3% for every 1000 ft you ascend for NA engines, which translates into a 15% loss at 5000 ft! 21% up at 7000 ft (Santa Fe)...

There wasn't a similar calculator for Forced Induction engines. Too many variables?

Still, it would be interesting (fun) to try... where's a track?
 
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Originally Posted by curtis0407
I am guessing it would be tough to duplicate such quick times in Albuquerque... the one caveat being that Forced Induction engines are not (as) negatively affected by altitude as Normally Aspirated engines are. I came across a calculator online that breaks down power loss into something like 3% for every 1000 ft you ascend for NA engines, which translates into a 15% loss at 5000 ft! 21% up at 7000 ft (Santa Fe)...

There wasn't a similar calculator for Forced Induction engines. Too many variables?

Still, it would be interesting (fun) to try... where's a track?
21%!!! Yikes. Glad I got the turbo!!!

There's a drag strip here, but I think they already closed for the winter.
 
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21%!!! Yikes. Glad I got the turbo!!!
I know. That is one of the main reasons I went after the MCS. I had always known that NA engines "suffered" power loss at higher altitudes, so I decided to give FI a try since I had never owned one and 7000 ft is pretty damn high - and boy do I like it! Amazing.

That - and I had just watched The Italian Job again...
 
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Sorry guys..been busy alllll day..

As far as wheels go, I posted up a thread a while back..
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=117490
Tons of pics towards the bottom
They are Enkei RPM2's..weighing in at 18 lbs I believe it was.. Stock 17" runflat dunlop runflats..

I launched at about 3500 rpms and slipped the clutch until I could go..track was decent.. I definitely have the shifting down...but my first time launched (at the track)...so..it could only improve..--so I thought.. but all in all..I had some good runs.. I was testing different launch RPMS, the higher launched and longer the slipping is for the higher ET's, I'd say a 3K then small slip of the clutch was plenty for this car...

I don't know what the exact weight it, but I have the sunroof, 17" wheels (2lbs lighter than stock I believe) and H&R Springs..

Speed button was on, ASC was off...

As far as mods... well.. Let me put it this way, it's basically the power of the JCW kit, minus the ECU reflash... Overall, I was happy with the times.. I strongly believe that with some real non-runflat tires, the ET could have been slighty lower..
 
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So you've got an intake and exhaust?

My stock r56s went 15.15 @93 as my best time. Temps were into the upper 80s and high humidity that day. With a better launch on sticky tires, I'm sure this is an easy 14 second car stock.
 
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Originally Posted by e30r56
So you've got an intake and exhaust?

My stock r56s went 15.15 @93 as my best time. Temps were into the upper 80s and high humidity that day. With a better launch on sticky tires, I'm sure this is an easy 14 second car stock.
Basically

It's just a filter on the end and I dropped the catback for an open dump

Cost: $0
 
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So with the full JCW and sticky tires, maybe high 13's?
 
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I'd say with slicks, you *may* be able to pull off a super low 14...With a reflash, FMIC, or possibly all the tubes replaced to the thicker silicone ones, and some skill, definately high 13s...
 
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So with the full JCW and sticky tires, maybe high 13's?
not with the stage1 and anything less then dragslicks on 16". Even then, 13's means at lot more horsepower at high end then JCW gives now.
 
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I had no idea 13's was that tough to achieve..... 10.xx MINI must be incredibly fast then....
 
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I posted mostly 15's and 1 14.9 totally stock on a warmer day. It seems like with the full Alta kit's hp claims, you would have to be screwing up to not occasionally touch the 13's. They're claiming ~220hp at the wheels, fox-bodied Mustangs could come close to a flat 14 (the LX notchbacks) with 225hp at the crank, weighing much more than a mini.

Thankya for the hope of consistently hitting high 14's with mild mods. I'm hoping just stickier street tires will do it, but we'll see.
 
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I don't think it's fair to just say that we should be able to hit high 13s just because other cars with similar power are doing so. You have to consider tires, drivetrain (RWD almost always hooks better at the dragstrip than FWD. Not a rule, but from what I've seen), and most importantly, gearing. They are just all different.

Would be fun to see how little or how much work is required to get these little cars into the 13s, though
 
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Basically

It's just a filter on the end and I dropped the catback for an open dump

Cost: $0
I don't mean to be such a noob... I don't get it???

Did you remove your exhaust from the cat back? Did you also remove the box around the intake/air filter?
 


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