R56 Daytime Running Lights
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I had mine programmed off.
When I'm working on my car, I don't like draining the battery whenever the ignition is on.
When I'm driving the car, I always turn on ALL my lights (except fogs). Start the car, lights on, seatbelt on, then go. Whatever you can do to make yourself more visible to all those inattentive drivers out there, it really helps when you're driving a small car.
It might be a regional preference, if you live somewhere sunny with light traffic, it may not be as necessary as it is in Seattle.
When I'm working on my car, I don't like draining the battery whenever the ignition is on.
When I'm driving the car, I always turn on ALL my lights (except fogs). Start the car, lights on, seatbelt on, then go. Whatever you can do to make yourself more visible to all those inattentive drivers out there, it really helps when you're driving a small car.
It might be a regional preference, if you live somewhere sunny with light traffic, it may not be as necessary as it is in Seattle.
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I don't drive with mine on during daylight, except when raining or near sunset.
My work truck has daytime running lights. I find plenty of drivers who can't see a full size, ladder rack equipped truck with running lights. They don't seem to make much difference in my experience, at least not on a multi-lane freeway with the nut-cases who drive in my area.![Smilie](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
On a two lane highway with passing zones and long straights they definitely help with visibility. I turn on my Mini's lights in those situations but not for normal driving.
My work truck has daytime running lights. I find plenty of drivers who can't see a full size, ladder rack equipped truck with running lights. They don't seem to make much difference in my experience, at least not on a multi-lane freeway with the nut-cases who drive in my area.
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On a two lane highway with passing zones and long straights they definitely help with visibility. I turn on my Mini's lights in those situations but not for normal driving.
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I thought I had mine programmed on but sometimes I pull up to someone and notice that I have no lights (by the lack of reflection off their back); other times they are on. I suspect that my DRL ore not programmed on but the ambient light sensor on my auto headlight feature is very sensitive in that anything other that direct sunlight will trigger the headlights.
I'm going to have them programmed on when I go in for my first service on Friday.
I'm going to have them programmed on when I go in for my first service on Friday.
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I just realized that when you set your daytime driving lights to come on automatically, all the lights come on; the headlight low beams, the lower parking lights, side markers, and the tail lights. I was under the impression the daytime driving lights were only the upper half of the fog lights, guess not... I don't want all my lights on all the time, most daytime driving lights are only the headlights not all the lights... Another Mini thing...
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I believe so. Many of the user controllable settings are tied to the fob. That way, two drivers can each have the car set up the way they want it.
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I had mine on for a while. Then one night I was waiting for my wife outside a store and realized with the car idling, the lights couldn't be turned off!
Someone has since mentioned that in his pre R56 if he pulled up the emergency brake, the lights would go off with the car idling. I haven't tried it though.
Someone has since mentioned that in his pre R56 if he pulled up the emergency brake, the lights would go off with the car idling. I haven't tried it though.
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I had mine on for a while. Then one night I was waiting for my wife outside a store and realized with the car idling, the lights couldn't be turned off!
Someone has since mentioned that in his pre R56 if he pulled up the emergency brake, the lights would go off with the car idling. I haven't tried it though.
Someone has since mentioned that in his pre R56 if he pulled up the emergency brake, the lights would go off with the car idling. I haven't tried it though.
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Lights on all the time
I am baffled that drivers are so stingy with their use of their lights. Do they think turning them on costs them money? Or are they just clueless as to the safety aspects of being seen? I have DRLs ON all the time. My 2003 MC had a dedicated bulb but with my 2007 MCS it is the bixenon bulb. I don't care if it costs me a few $ to replace the xenon bulb. I learned when driving a motorcycle, part of being safe is being seen. Plus, I live in the mountains, on a two-lane highway where the light is mixed between tree shadow and bright sunlight. Headlights make a big difference, and most of the commuters here drive with lights on, even in broad daylight, because being seen is part of being safe.
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The whole trick to being invisible is to be at the same luminance as your background (an old camouflage trick). Conversely, to maximize your being seen, you want the most contrast possible. In almost all cases that means lights on...only time that wouldn't work is if you're parked in front of a huge wall of light or actually in flight with a bright sky background...neither of which are likely.
I'm going with DRLs.
I'm going with DRLs.
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I just realized that when you set your daytime driving lights to come on automatically, all the lights come on; the headlight low beams, the lower parking lights, side markers, and the tail lights. I was under the impression the daytime driving lights were only the upper half of the fog lights, guess not... I don't want all my lights on all the time, most daytime driving lights are only the headlights not all the lights... Another Mini thing...
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Also, I have the auto-lights and never take them out of auto (there's a dedicated off position). So at sunset, when it's raining, in a tunnel or frankly even in a bit overcast, my lights are on.
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I am baffled that drivers are so stingy with their use of their lights. Do they think turning them on costs them money? Or are they just clueless as to the safety aspects of being seen? I have DRLs ON all the time. My 2003 MC had a dedicated bulb but with my 2007 MCS it is the bixenon bulb. I don't care if it costs me a few $ to replace the xenon bulb. I learned when driving a motorcycle, part of being safe is being seen. Plus, I live in the mountains, on a two-lane highway where the light is mixed between tree shadow and bright sunlight. Headlights make a big difference, and most of the commuters here drive with lights on, even in broad daylight, because being seen is part of being safe.
Hence in Canada, DRL's have been the law since about 1992 or so. Seems strange whenever I cross the border and see so many cars driving without their lights on. DRL's also are not as bright as when the lights are on fully. Having had my car for over 10 years now, I've never had to change the lights once in my car. There really isn't any measureable savings by having them off. When working on a car with DRL's, raising the hand brake lever usually turns them off.
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Hence in Canada, DRL's have been the law since about 1992 or so. Seems strange whenever I cross the border and see so many cars driving without their lights on. DRL's also are not as bright as when the lights are on fully. Having had my car for over 10 years now, I've never had to change the lights once in my car. There really isn't any measureable savings by having them off. When working on a car with DRL's, raising the hand brake lever usually turns them off.
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I am baffled that drivers are so stingy with their use of their lights. Do they think turning them on costs them money? Or are they just clueless as to the safety aspects of being seen? I have DRLs ON all the time. My 2003 MC had a dedicated bulb but with my 2007 MCS it is the bixenon bulb. I don't care if it costs me a few $ to replace the xenon bulb. I learned when driving a motorcycle, part of being safe is being seen. Plus, I live in the mountains, on a two-lane highway where the light is mixed between tree shadow and bright sunlight. Headlights make a big difference, and most of the commuters here drive with lights on, even in broad daylight, because being seen is part of being safe.
My understanding is that Xenons are extremely expensive to replace, and the thing that kills them is startup. So, if I'm running a lot of short errands with good visibility, I leave them off. If I'm driving a few miles or more on a two-lane road or freeway, I'll turn them on manually.