R56 Did You Guys Get Any Discount?
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By the way, one form of discount is NOT paying the markup. We're here in San Diego and contacted 3 dealerships up in the L.A. area, Phoenix, and Las Vegas and took our best deal (Crevier) back to our M.A. (Amanda Perez) at Brecht and asked them to beat it. We ended up NOT paying the markup that Brecht traditionally adds to each MINI they sell to support their racing program. We were VERY happy with the deal.
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Boy did i get hooked up!! i got FREE, yes FREE, rubber mats all around (includes the boot that has a nice Cooper S CF emblem)!!
Seriously though, even with dealers around you, MSRP seems to be popular with dealer. The biggest difference is in what accessories they may throw in from dealer to dealer.
Seriously though, even with dealers around you, MSRP seems to be popular with dealer. The biggest difference is in what accessories they may throw in from dealer to dealer.
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It's not always necessary to pay MSRP for a Mini. I talked with several dealerships in my area (fortunately I have several) and simply played one against the other. I ended up at Ottos at the end of the month and bought my car, free floormats included, at around $1000 under MSRP. It CAN be done- you just need to be bold enough to ask.
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I'm sorry but it's hard to believe any of the people who received anything over $500 off especially on the '08 due to the fact that each dealership is strictly limited to an allotment of cars. Why would they offer such huge discounts when they know they can sell their whole allotment at MSRP? I could see getting a discount like that if you had some sort of personal relations with someone at the dealer in some way but seriously, why do so many brag about discounts that are non-existant especially if one were to call 5 dealerships tomorrow and none of them would offer that discount in anyway shape or form.
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Join the military get stationed overseas and get 2000 off MSRP. US MSRP for a Cooper S $21,850 Miltary sales $19,850 USD. You may end up in the sandbox but you save 2 grand.
FWIW I am about to pull the trigger on a Cooper S with Cold weather package, Premium pkg, Sport package with LSD, rear fog lights, center arm rest, xenons, white turn signals, anti theft alarm, delivered for $25,325
FWIW I am about to pull the trigger on a Cooper S with Cold weather package, Premium pkg, Sport package with LSD, rear fog lights, center arm rest, xenons, white turn signals, anti theft alarm, delivered for $25,325
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I don't consider the MSRP that bad for a variety of reasons.
I won't list them all.
The price is the price you either agree or you don't.
I still vividly remember going to buy my honda. They
are a company that adds thousands to the MSRP of
popular models. In my case, about 40% more.
It took me all day to work down to the MSRP. I didn't get
floormats or a radio. It was so traumatic to me I swore I
would never buy another new honda, and I haven't.
From mini the price was the price I got free floormats, two hats,
and a radio (yes, I realize it is included ha ha).
Adjusted for inflation that honda cost 50% more than my mini did today.
The mini is a great value at msrp.
BTW they do you no favors letting you bargain down from the msrp
at the honda place anyway. I actually did look and the best I could
figure out was the dealer mark up was twice the mini anyway.
So, you bargain $1500 off the price (or whatever) you might
convince yourself that you got a great deal but the fact is
you've still paid the owner's superyacht payment.
And btw, that honda guy was former military and I was current military
although I admit in modern times there might be better deals now.
I won't list them all.
The price is the price you either agree or you don't.
I still vividly remember going to buy my honda. They
are a company that adds thousands to the MSRP of
popular models. In my case, about 40% more.
It took me all day to work down to the MSRP. I didn't get
floormats or a radio. It was so traumatic to me I swore I
would never buy another new honda, and I haven't.
From mini the price was the price I got free floormats, two hats,
and a radio (yes, I realize it is included ha ha).
Adjusted for inflation that honda cost 50% more than my mini did today.
The mini is a great value at msrp.
BTW they do you no favors letting you bargain down from the msrp
at the honda place anyway. I actually did look and the best I could
figure out was the dealer mark up was twice the mini anyway.
So, you bargain $1500 off the price (or whatever) you might
convince yourself that you got a great deal but the fact is
you've still paid the owner's superyacht payment.
And btw, that honda guy was former military and I was current military
although I admit in modern times there might be better deals now.
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Yes, there are better deals. BMWs sell for invoice price on all cars including M3s and M5s. Too bad Porsche gives a lowly 3% off MSRP. Which means they're still making 12% on the car as the invoice markup is 15%.
I can get a better deal on a 911 through the local dealer where I went to medical school than the military sales guy in Stuttgart. Oh well, that's why I bought an Audi RS4 over an overpriced 997 C2S.
I can get a better deal on a 911 through the local dealer where I went to medical school than the military sales guy in Stuttgart. Oh well, that's why I bought an Audi RS4 over an overpriced 997 C2S.
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It's not always necessary to pay MSRP for a Mini. I talked with several dealerships in my area (fortunately I have several) and simply played one against the other. I ended up at Ottos at the end of the month and bought my car, free floormats included, at around $1000 under MSRP. It CAN be done- you just need to be bold enough to ask.
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ive said it before and Ill say it again: it is much easier to get a nickle-dime discount if yr in a region that is MINI dealer-heavy with lots of competition, as opposed to other parts of the county (like the West, minus CA) where dealers are few and far between. So dont cry if U have to pay MSRP, it's not like some HUGE badge of dishonor among those who have to freaking haggle on everything they buy, which to me is nothing short of annoying, esp. if they don't know the product.
Look at it this way: MSRP is acceptable for a car that 1) demand exceeds supply, 2) has had the highest resale and residual values of any car sold in America under 70K since 2003, and 3) won't lose 20-30% of its value the moment it leaves the dealer's lot. It's a MINI, not a Chevy FCOL, and that historic moniker, like Ferrari, carries a lot of weight in the auto industry. I paid MSRP for my 2005 S (back when waits were exceeding a year) and have ZERO regrets because I understood the historical context of the current product, and the S/D curve.
It's the so-called market adjustments and dealer markups that rile me (CA is esp. bad with this) and those charges are 100% negotiable. I should know, for when I sold cars new Corvettes were marked up a minimum of $5,000; $10,000 for the ZO6, yet I dont recall anyone actually paying that ridiculous markup. But there were NO discounts off MSRP, because, in a way, the MINI and the Corvette are quite similar products.
Look at it this way: MSRP is acceptable for a car that 1) demand exceeds supply, 2) has had the highest resale and residual values of any car sold in America under 70K since 2003, and 3) won't lose 20-30% of its value the moment it leaves the dealer's lot. It's a MINI, not a Chevy FCOL, and that historic moniker, like Ferrari, carries a lot of weight in the auto industry. I paid MSRP for my 2005 S (back when waits were exceeding a year) and have ZERO regrets because I understood the historical context of the current product, and the S/D curve.
It's the so-called market adjustments and dealer markups that rile me (CA is esp. bad with this) and those charges are 100% negotiable. I should know, for when I sold cars new Corvettes were marked up a minimum of $5,000; $10,000 for the ZO6, yet I dont recall anyone actually paying that ridiculous markup. But there were NO discounts off MSRP, because, in a way, the MINI and the Corvette are quite similar products.
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Rant on....
Ok I have to chime in with my 2cents. Quick background, I have been in dealerships for the past 20yrs, in service. If there is one thing that I have learned in that time is that the dealership can sell you a car for what ever they choose to sell it for. There is no magic formula or way to get the best deal it is different everywhere you go. To Condor27596, my last 9 years have been with Honda, a very good reliable car, and still no reason to pay msrp for one. Another quick example is the new Ford GT500 Mustang, most dealers are about 14k over sticker price!! Why!! Here it is, in plain english, it is because we (the customer) are willing to pay it!!! Instead of shopping around and researching what a reasonable price is and where to pay it. Most people are unreasonable in there requests, so of course they dont get what they want and are unhappy. Dealerships still need to make profit, most car companys these days do not hide what the dealer pays for the cars. With that said, do your research and figure what is a fair price and make offers to more than one dealership, you may be suprised at the result.
Moral of the story we all will continue to pay msrp and more if WE do not control the price, funny how thousands of MINI's sitting on lots will motivate dealers.
Rant off.....Sorry and thanks
Ok I have to chime in with my 2cents. Quick background, I have been in dealerships for the past 20yrs, in service. If there is one thing that I have learned in that time is that the dealership can sell you a car for what ever they choose to sell it for. There is no magic formula or way to get the best deal it is different everywhere you go. To Condor27596, my last 9 years have been with Honda, a very good reliable car, and still no reason to pay msrp for one. Another quick example is the new Ford GT500 Mustang, most dealers are about 14k over sticker price!! Why!! Here it is, in plain english, it is because we (the customer) are willing to pay it!!! Instead of shopping around and researching what a reasonable price is and where to pay it. Most people are unreasonable in there requests, so of course they dont get what they want and are unhappy. Dealerships still need to make profit, most car companys these days do not hide what the dealer pays for the cars. With that said, do your research and figure what is a fair price and make offers to more than one dealership, you may be suprised at the result.
Moral of the story we all will continue to pay msrp and more if WE do not control the price, funny how thousands of MINI's sitting on lots will motivate dealers.
Rant off.....Sorry and thanks
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Just to add to my earlier statement, my Mini was custom-ordered as well (it seems most of them are). I just thought I'd try to get the price as low as possible and was determined not to pay MSRP. If you have to play the little game where you leave and come back a few times or go to multiple dealers (if more than one exists) I say do it!
Think...you're making jobs of the folks at Mini dealerships so EASY because you choose not to give them a little bit of a hard time! Is the car worth every penny of the MSRP?- sure it is...but why pay more than you have to? Money is money-
Think...you're making jobs of the folks at Mini dealerships so EASY because you choose not to give them a little bit of a hard time! Is the car worth every penny of the MSRP?- sure it is...but why pay more than you have to? Money is money-