R56 Does Anyone Else Dislike Using the TURN SIGNALS on their '08 as much as I do?
#27
its really not that bad. i set it to blink three times when im changing lanes and turn it on only when i have to turn. i also think this is great because i dont have to hold it in position just to switch lanes (like i did in my 06 corolla) and i also dont have to fully turn it on to switch lanes. i dont push it in the same direction to turn it off though and i think i have only once pushed it too far that it turns on the other signal. i guess it just takes time to get used to.
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I was filled with rage over the signals for my test drive, I mentioned it to my MA (or is it SA???) and he told me how to actually use them correctly, then I took a 24 hour test drive and fell in love. The signals are very good, you just have to know what's up with them.
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Hitting the stalk in the same direction to shut it off as you did to turn it on is what's annoying to me, as it's just not logical to me (or something I've ever done to use signals before). I"m also used to a less temperamental stalk that will go on as soon as you hit it....which this one sometimes does not. But I am going to switch it to the three-flash mode and see how I like that. Thanks for responding....every little bit of info and opinion helps
Sharon
Sharon
#35
Maybe this will make sense to someone as it helps me remember...
Think of everything in the R56 as a toggle switch. Specifically think of the turn-signal stalk as two toggle switches. Down toggles left and Up toggles right. When you set 3-flashes and tap the toggle (like your auto-down window toggle) it auto-blinks 3 times. When you push harder and past the indent then it stays on until you toggle it off.
I actually wish I could have it blink more then 3-blinks as I have a tendency to turn the blinker on before looking in all my mirrors and blind spot and by the time I actually go to turn the wheel the 3-blinks are done and I have to tap it again.
So I give the turn signal a big and I also give the R56 a thumbs up for putting independent left and right hand arrow lights on the tach. The single "you have one of your blinkers on" light of the old model drove me nuts.
Think of everything in the R56 as a toggle switch. Specifically think of the turn-signal stalk as two toggle switches. Down toggles left and Up toggles right. When you set 3-flashes and tap the toggle (like your auto-down window toggle) it auto-blinks 3 times. When you push harder and past the indent then it stays on until you toggle it off.
I actually wish I could have it blink more then 3-blinks as I have a tendency to turn the blinker on before looking in all my mirrors and blind spot and by the time I actually go to turn the wheel the 3-blinks are done and I have to tap it again.
So I give the turn signal a big and I also give the R56 a thumbs up for putting independent left and right hand arrow lights on the tach. The single "you have one of your blinkers on" light of the old model drove me nuts.
#36
How is it intuitive to push the signal in the same direction to cancel it??
The R56 turn signal stalk is bat sh%# crazy. It's over-engineered. Turn signals have always flashed before the detent, and with "normal" signals you control the number of flashes as the situation warrants, without having to program yet another computer setting.
The R56 turn signal stalk is bat sh%# crazy. It's over-engineered. Turn signals have always flashed before the detent, and with "normal" signals you control the number of flashes as the situation warrants, without having to program yet another computer setting.
#37
I hate the "all one light" too, so I was very happy that mine didn't come that way (since I have the OEM Nav).
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I dislike the tactile aspect of the turn signals. They took the perfect feel and function of my previous BMWs, and designed in a ridiculous system. I've had the car a year and I still don't like them.
The 3 flash is no big deal. I'm pretty sure at least one of our previous BMWs had it--and without the tiny detent. Also, cancelling by pushing the same way doesn't make sense.
The 3 flash is no big deal. I'm pretty sure at least one of our previous BMWs had it--and without the tiny detent. Also, cancelling by pushing the same way doesn't make sense.
#39
Sharon,
Yeah they do take a day or two to get used to. I think they are perfectly fine. Push all the way down or up to fully engage the signal and when I'm on the highway and change lanes frequesntly I give it a tap and it blinks three times. Its great feature and I havent had any problems yet.
Yeah they do take a day or two to get used to. I think they are perfectly fine. Push all the way down or up to fully engage the signal and when I'm on the highway and change lanes frequesntly I give it a tap and it blinks three times. Its great feature and I havent had any problems yet.
Thanks again!
Sharon
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#41
I took a few MCS' out for test drives and found that after a few confusing moments I had it down. I think you just have to concentrate on the difference in feel between the detent and just before and you will get used to the fact that with the detent they stay on - a gentle tap in the opposing direction turns them off. I really like the 3 flash option for lane changes.
just my $0.02
just my $0.02
#42
He just told me that when you flick it in the appropriate direction you get three flashes, if you press it in the appropriate direction they will stay on continuously (until the self canceler kicks in). Pretty easy. When you manually cancel just flick it in the opposite direction.
The most important thing is the difference between flick and press. Sit in your car for 3 minutes with this specific mission. You'll get it, and it will become second nature.
Also, who cares if the cancel in the same direction is weird... just don't use it if it is uncomfortable.
Here is a link to the owners manual. Look on page 39 to get a detailed look at it. Spend a little time with it, you'll be converted.
The most important thing is the difference between flick and press. Sit in your car for 3 minutes with this specific mission. You'll get it, and it will become second nature.
Also, who cares if the cancel in the same direction is weird... just don't use it if it is uncomfortable.
Here is a link to the owners manual. Look on page 39 to get a detailed look at it. Spend a little time with it, you'll be converted.
Last edited by giantjoe; 02-08-2008 at 06:33 PM.
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--Dan
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So what, being able to flick the stalk to get 3 flashes, like on every decent European car, is over engineering and a bad idea?
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No, but as I said in my post, I think that's been there on other cars before.
I think the real difference is that it's gone from a "mechanical" stalk to a purely "fly-by-wire" stalk. I suppose it's better, but it seems like just one more thing that can fail.
It does seem that people either love it or hate it--nothing in between. Count me in the "hate it" group.
I think the real difference is that it's gone from a "mechanical" stalk to a purely "fly-by-wire" stalk. I suppose it's better, but it seems like just one more thing that can fail.
It does seem that people either love it or hate it--nothing in between. Count me in the "hate it" group.
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