R56 Does Anyone Else Dislike Using the TURN SIGNALS on their '08 as much as I do?
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02-09-2008, 08:25 PM
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hm.. all this talk of the turn signal might be coming from those without the 3 flash flick. That makes everything pretty useful and I rarely have to cancel my signals with that available option.
With that said, how come there isn't a commotion over the wiper stalk? I've had the car for 5 months and still have trouble switching between speeds.
With that said, how come there isn't a commotion over the wiper stalk? I've had the car for 5 months and still have trouble switching between speeds.
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02-09-2008, 08:42 PM
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hm.. all this talk of the turn signal might be coming from those without the 3 flash flick. That makes everything pretty useful and I rarely have to cancel my signals with that available option.
With that said, how come there isn't a commotion over the wiper stalk? I've had the car for 5 months and still have trouble switching between speeds.
With that said, how come there isn't a commotion over the wiper stalk? I've had the car for 5 months and still have trouble switching between speeds.
Do you have auto wipers? If you do, have the button on the end of the stalk (not all do), AND have your car reprogrammed for something, you'll find it works with the stalk button. Much easier.
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02-09-2008, 10:13 PM
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I would love to know what lives people lead if this turn signal baffles.
Half click down three flashes. Full click down turns on. Push half way down to cancel.
If this is hard I need your job.
Not very 'NAM' like but damn people.
I would love to know what lives people lead if this turn signal baffles.
Half click down three flashes. Full click down turns on. Push half way down to cancel.
If this is hard I need your job.
Not very 'NAM' like but damn people.
I'm almost completely baffled as to how people are having a problem with these turn signal stalks. And this is coming from someone who owns an R50 and has only driven the R56 a couple times during test drives. I feel that it's quite an intuitive design and it only took me a few minutes in the car to become completely comfortable with them. One light push in either direction flashes the signal once or three times depending on the setting and then a slightly stronger push past the detent and the signal is fully "on." It only took a couple seconds of trial-and-error before I realized that pushing the same direction on the stalk would cancel the turn signal flash. Brilliant, that.
This week, I had a 328 loaner while my car was in for service and I almost wanted to keep the car, if only for the turn signals. In fact, I like them so much, it almost made up for the fact that the BMW had an automatic. Almost...
This week, I had a 328 loaner while my car was in for service and I almost wanted to keep the car, if only for the turn signals. In fact, I like them so much, it almost made up for the fact that the BMW had an automatic. Almost...
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02-10-2008, 07:32 AM
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i totally agree with you going4speed. i think its kind of silly that everyone is complaining about turn signals. why is it that people will always find something wrong with a new car they get? if its really that annoying and they cant get used to it, maybe they should have gotten another car. i mean be glad that you are on here posting that you cant stand your turn signals rather than having to say that you had to take your car to the dealer at 15k miles because the computer went bad( happened with my 06 toyota) and then having to take it back because your ac died at 35k miles.
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Amazing how someone would think that an opinion on turn signals has to do with how they "live their lives." Whew!
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And since when do I have to like EVERYTHING about my car--MINI or not?
It's not a defining factor in my character or personality. Don't you dislike something about your car?
#62
02-10-2008, 12:02 PM
think of it as a reliability feature, to have the turn signal stay down or up like older cars, they'd have had to include a mechanical switch and cancelation ring. The way the new systems work, you've got a basic 4 position electronic switch and the control module can cancel it based on input from your steering angle sensor (that it's already recieving).
btw, I'd never figured out that you could tap the turn signal in the same direction to cancel, tried it out yesterday for the first time
no more accidental blinkers on in the other direction, now I really have nothing to gripe about.
btw, I'd never figured out that you could tap the turn signal in the same direction to cancel, tried it out yesterday for the first time
no more accidental blinkers on in the other direction, now I really have nothing to gripe about.
#64
02-10-2008, 12:37 PM
Solid state electronics are simpler than mechanical devices. I think this system is simpler than the old mechanical style. My 68 VW is very simple but when I had to try to figure out why my signals weren't working, I had to look at a number of mechanical gadgets to ascertain the problem before I could actually get them to self cancel again...
#65
02-10-2008, 01:46 PM
I hate the turn signal ('07 MCS) After 1000 miles, I disabled the 3x halfway turn to a 1x and couldn't be happier. I like being in control of the duration of the signal. The half-way tap always tripped me up.
Point being: this car continues to amaze me the degree to which you can simply change something. I appreciate their innovativeness.
Point being: this car continues to amaze me the degree to which you can simply change something. I appreciate their innovativeness.
#66
02-10-2008, 03:53 PM
That's what I did, although in my case I just decided to hang on to my R53 and not buy something else. The turn signal was just one of several annoying changes which I didn't feel like putting up with. Another one was the superfluous engine start/stop switch and the huge key fob which came with it. Just too much BMW-fication for me... 
#67
02-10-2008, 03:59 PM
This would be a silly reason not to buy this car. Any MA worth his/her salt should be able to disable the function through the onboard computer.
Also, while the key fob on/off button is a little silly, I couldn't fathom it deterring someone from purchasing an otherwise extraordinary car.
That's just me.
Also, while the key fob on/off button is a little silly, I couldn't fathom it deterring someone from purchasing an otherwise extraordinary car.
That's just me.
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02-10-2008, 04:09 PM
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Believe me I'm holding back. The comment was not rude.....Kindler gentler nation crap drives me to drink!
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02-10-2008, 04:16 PM
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Filled with rage? Over turn signals......
I was filled with rage over the signals for my test drive, I mentioned it to my MA (or is it SA???) and he told me how to actually use them correctly, then I took a 24 hour test drive and fell in love. The signals are very good, you just have to know what's up with them.
#71
02-10-2008, 04:20 PM
turn signals....
okay i consider myself a very basic simple minded person.....but when it came to learning these new-style turnsignals....it was just a very 2nd nature...my other car is a 2001 wrangler, so i was coming from another vehicle that had power NOTHING!!!...i made the switch over no problem at all...and that was using the mini only once in a while....switching back and forth between the jeep and the mini...
then once i found the triple turn indicator...it was that much easier....
the biggest problem i had going back and forth.....the power windows vs. the non power windows in the jeep......
adam
then once i found the triple turn indicator...it was that much easier....
the biggest problem i had going back and forth.....the power windows vs. the non power windows in the jeep......
adam
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02-10-2008, 05:02 PM
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02-10-2008, 06:49 PM
It works like a normal stalk in that respect. If you hold the stalk on as you make a lane change, as soon as you release it stops blinking.
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02-10-2008, 07:56 PM
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