R56 150 MPG in a Mini?
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150 MPG in a Mini?
Surely someone has seen or heard someone who has tried this...Popular Science and Popular Mechanics have adds about "hybrid" fuel technology that pushes cars over a hundred MPG. It's The PICC, Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter.
http://www.preignitioncc.com/ps/index.htm
Is this the new male mini enhancement product or is there any truth to this mystery?
http://www.preignitioncc.com/ps/index.htm
Is this the new male mini enhancement product or is there any truth to this mystery?
#2
"can" and "we believe" protect the seller from getting sued when there is no change in mileage.
If there was any truth to their claims they would be gobbled up by a large car manufacturer immediately. Every auto manufacturer is looking into how to improve mileage. Anything easy has been done.
If there was any truth to their claims they would be gobbled up by a large car manufacturer immediately. Every auto manufacturer is looking into how to improve mileage. Anything easy has been done.
#3
Complete crap with not scientific basis for why it would work. To get the types of efficiency improvements they claim there'd have to be raw fuel shooting out your exhaust prior to their upgrade.
What this product appears to be is some sort of electromagnet that breaks the fuel down. Except, it doesn't work that way. If you were to break the fuel down into it's elemental forms you'd be performing the actual combustion process. Explosions in your intake don't work too well for any engine.
What this product probably actually does is heat the intake air and fuel so that it better atomizes. Smokey Yunick had a car in the 80s that achieved 100mpg using a similar idea. His process involved turbocharging a high compression 4 cylinder car then further heating the intake air. The car absolutely required race fuel and detonated like crazy (bad for engine life) but did actually deliver great fuel economy for a few weeks. You can imagine why this isn't such a good idea in a car you plan to drive for a while and, given that we use intercoolers and cold air intakes to get a cooler, denser intake charge for more power, you can imagine we wouldn't want this system on a performance vehicle.
Popular Mechanics actually did a test on some of the Fuel Savers a while back (I guess they ordered them from their own magazine, but anyone can take out an ad in the back of PM). There's some interesting results and a few were actually very dangerous. This one might fall in the dangerous category as I wouldn't trust anything that tried to electrically heat fuel.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/1802932.html
What this product appears to be is some sort of electromagnet that breaks the fuel down. Except, it doesn't work that way. If you were to break the fuel down into it's elemental forms you'd be performing the actual combustion process. Explosions in your intake don't work too well for any engine.
What this product probably actually does is heat the intake air and fuel so that it better atomizes. Smokey Yunick had a car in the 80s that achieved 100mpg using a similar idea. His process involved turbocharging a high compression 4 cylinder car then further heating the intake air. The car absolutely required race fuel and detonated like crazy (bad for engine life) but did actually deliver great fuel economy for a few weeks. You can imagine why this isn't such a good idea in a car you plan to drive for a while and, given that we use intercoolers and cold air intakes to get a cooler, denser intake charge for more power, you can imagine we wouldn't want this system on a performance vehicle.
Popular Mechanics actually did a test on some of the Fuel Savers a while back (I guess they ordered them from their own magazine, but anyone can take out an ad in the back of PM). There's some interesting results and a few were actually very dangerous. This one might fall in the dangerous category as I wouldn't trust anything that tried to electrically heat fuel.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...s/1802932.html
Last edited by Deviant; 02-23-2008 at 10:12 AM.
#4
Pssst....
I have a bridge to sell you!
Matt
ps, what ever happened to education here? Break water to get power? Um, there are about 750 watts per hp, and if you run 15 amps at 12 volts, that's 180 watts, or about 1/4 hp. Now burn that hydrogen with oxygen and you get..... about 1/4 hp! Also, if you take a bunch of energy to break apart the gas, where does that energy come from.. Oh yeah, the plasma! Plasma powered by what?
Matt
ps, what ever happened to education here? Break water to get power? Um, there are about 750 watts per hp, and if you run 15 amps at 12 volts, that's 180 watts, or about 1/4 hp. Now burn that hydrogen with oxygen and you get..... about 1/4 hp! Also, if you take a bunch of energy to break apart the gas, where does that energy come from.. Oh yeah, the plasma! Plasma powered by what?
Last edited by Dr Obnxs; 02-23-2008 at 10:31 AM.
#5
"can" and "we believe" protect the seller from getting sued when there is no change in mileage.
If there was any truth to their claims they would be gobbled up by a large car manufacturer immediately. Every auto manufacturer is looking into how to improve mileage. Anything easy has been done.
If there was any truth to their claims they would be gobbled up by a large car manufacturer immediately. Every auto manufacturer is looking into how to improve mileage. Anything easy has been done.
If it were to turn out effective, it would have been all over the place.
Last edited by AstroBlackS; 02-23-2008 at 10:23 AM.
#6
I have a bridge to sell you!
Matt
ps, what ever happened to education here? Break water to get power? Um, there are about 750 watts per hp, and if you run 15 amps at 12 volts, that's 180 watts, or about 1/4 hp. Now burn that hydrogen with oxygen and you get..... about 1/4 hp! Also, if you take a bunch of energy to break apart the gas, where does that energy come from.. Oh yeah, the plasma! Plasma powered by what?
This is one of the biggest crocks of sh*t there ever was, and the fact that people are even asking if it would work is quite the knock on our system of education.
Matt
ps, what ever happened to education here? Break water to get power? Um, there are about 750 watts per hp, and if you run 15 amps at 12 volts, that's 180 watts, or about 1/4 hp. Now burn that hydrogen with oxygen and you get..... about 1/4 hp! Also, if you take a bunch of energy to break apart the gas, where does that energy come from.. Oh yeah, the plasma! Plasma powered by what?
This is one of the biggest crocks of sh*t there ever was, and the fact that people are even asking if it would work is quite the knock on our system of education.
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