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Old 05-14-2008, 07:05 PM
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what is the base cost of the jcw clubman s...
 
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According to that enlightening little PDF (Thanks ThommyG) DTC/EDLC will be available on all MCS' starting in September as a $500 option or as part of the Sport package. Anyone have any info regarding what that Sport Package will look like and how much?
 
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Fun to see the wholesale prices. I don't feel too bad; the markup isn't too much.
 
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wow, correct me if I'm wrong but looks like a nicely equipped JCW will be in the 35k+ range?
 
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wow, correct me if I'm wrong but looks like a nicely equipped JCW will be in the 35k+ range?
I would say closer to 40, with some going out the door closer to 45
 
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wow, correct me if I'm wrong but looks like a nicely equipped JCW will be in the 35k+ range?
The factory JCW I have on order is in that price range.
 
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The factory JCW I have on order is in that price range.
What's disappointing is that my configuration does not include installation and painting of JCW aero kit! argh, I wish we could just order it straight from the factory.

I think MINI did a bad job of introducing the new sub brand.

Could you imagine an M3 not including the suspension and body kit, not to mention having to pay extra for installation?

I was getting really excited but my budget is 32-34k
 
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SF_VR6
What's disappointing is that my configuration does not include installation and painting of JCW aero kit! argh, I wish we could just order it straight from the factory.

I think MINI did a bad job of introducing the new sub brand.

Could you imagine an M3 not including the suspension and body kit, not to mention having to pay extra for installation?

I was getting really excited but my budget is 32-34k
I agree the JCW should have included the the suspension 226. I think this JCW includes the SPORT buttion to activate stiffer suspension -- correct?
 
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I agree the JCW should have included the the suspension 226. I think this JCW includes the SPORT buttion to activate stiffer suspension -- correct?

The SPORT button will tighten the steering but doesn't control suspension settings.
 
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The SPORT button will tighten the steering but doesn't control suspension settings.
Thanks, my misunderstanding. How does the SPORT button actually affect steering? Does it change the hydraulics in the steering?
 
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Originally Posted by SF_VR6
I was getting really excited but my budget is 32-34k
Its not all that bad.. My JWC is set up as follows:
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ZCV (convenience);
ZCW (cold weather);
ZPP (premium);
Other options:
522 (Xenon headlights);
5AA Rear fog lamp;
653 (HD radio);
6FD Mini Hif Sound;
Mudflaps
Clearshield
Window Tint
Dropping the radio and speakers would bring it under $35K
 
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Great information! It's really cool to see the markup difference.
 
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I just decided to go with the factory JCW, and I'm on a budget. My spec came in at $30,900 and includes Xenons and the cold weather pack. I'd rather go this route then get leather and a couple other goodies on the regular MCS and spend $28K.

I don't mind that it lacks the aero kit because I'm one of those in the minority that likes a 'sleeper' car. I don't want people to see it coming, blaring at them from miles away.

I loved my MK IV R32 because everyone just thought it was a golf.

$30K is a lot to spend on a MINI, but I'm hoping the JCW is worth it.

And thanks to the original poster for the info -- VERY helpful!
 
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Originally Posted by SF_VR6
Could you imagine an M3 not including the suspension and body kit, not to mention having to pay extra for installation?
Let's look at your comparo:

3 Series: $32,400 Starting
M3: $53,800 Starting
Increase of 66%

Cooper S: $22,350 Starting
JCW Hardtop: $29,200 Starting
Increase of 31%

So if you want an "M" version of a Mini it should cost $37,101 before you add options (take 1.66 X $22,350). You can get the body kit and the JCW suspension installed by your dealer for $4500. Totaling $33,700 for a JCW Hardtop. You could still add the $1250 convenience, $1500 premium, and $500 Cold weather and be at $36,950.

Still want to complain?
 
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Originally Posted by Wizeguy9999
Let's look at your comparo:

3 Series: $32,400 Starting
M3: $53,800 Starting
Increase of 66%

Cooper S: $22,350 Starting
JCW Hardtop: $29,200 Starting
Increase of 31%

So if you want an "M" version of a Mini it should cost $37,101 before you add options (take 1.66 X $22,350). You can get the body kit and the JCW suspension installed by your dealer for $4500. Totaling $33,700 for a JCW Hardtop. You could still add the $1250 convenience, $1500 premium, and $500 Cold weather and be at $36,950.

Still want to complain?
Note quite the same comparison. I mean, first of all, you'd compare the JCW to the Cooper, not the Cooper S, because I'm sure that 32k figure for the 3 series is NOT for the 335i but for the base engine. Plus, the M car comes with many options standard that are not included on the base 3 series (but JCW doesn't do this).
 
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Anyone else confused over the bluetooth/ipod options?

All I want is the MFSW, armrest and ipod adapter (and smartphone prep 6NF), but it says they are removing 6NE (which is required for 6NF) from the convenience package...

Does that mean I need to have all 3?

6ND?
6NE?
6NF?

 
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Originally Posted by mf44
Note quite the same comparison. I mean, first of all, you'd compare the JCW to the Cooper, not the Cooper S, because I'm sure that 32k figure for the 3 series is NOT for the 335i but for the base engine. Plus, the M car comes with many options standard that are not included on the base 3 series (but JCW doesn't do this).
Ok I'll give you that I should use the $19,200 for the Mini Cooper and not use the S number.

So let me revise:

3 Series: $32,400 Starting
M3: $53,800 Starting
Increase of 66%

Cooper: $19,200 Starting
JCW Hardtop: $29,200 Starting
Increase of 52%

That means that using the same upgrade percentage from the M would put the JCW at $31,872 (1.66*19,200). So I now have the room of $2672. for that you could still get the sports suspension $500, the JCW aero kit $1250, and have $922 to offer for installation.

And what comes standard on the M3?!?!?

Here is a list of options that cost money on an M3: Metallic Paint, Leather, Compass, Folding mirrors, garage door opener, heated seats, navigation, comfort access, voice acctivation, HD Radio, ipod connectivity, BMW assist, park distance, folding rear seat, moonroof, satelite radio, premium sound.

So let's not pretend that the M3 is loaded full of options already in the price.

The JCW is properly priced for a BMW. I also think they could have included the aero kit, and suspension, and upped the price for everyone and that would have been fine too.
 
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Originally Posted by Wizeguy9999
I also think they could have included the aero kit, and suspension, and upped the price for everyone and that would have been fine too.
I, for one, am glad they didn't. I like spending less money on a car that performs as well but looks a bit more stealth. I don't disagree with any of your pricing logic, I just like that I can get into a JCW for right around $30K. If they had moved the price up much higher, I would have stuck with a regular MCS
 
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Originally Posted by fronesis47
I, for one, am glad they didn't. I like spending less money on a car that performs as well but looks a bit more stealth. I don't disagree with any of your pricing logic, I just like that I can get into a JCW for right around $30K. If they had moved the price up much higher, I would have stuck with a regular MCS
Agreed! I am not getting the aero kit. All I want is the base car, sports suspensio, HID, and comfort pack.

altogether that should cost me less than $32K.
 
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Originally Posted by jinx1181
Anyone else confused over the bluetooth/ipod options?

All I want is the MFSW, armrest and ipod adapter (and smartphone prep 6NF), but it says they are removing 6NE (which is required for 6NF) from the convenience package...

Does that mean I need to have all 3?

6ND?
6NE?
6NF?

I think you want 6NE (Comfort Bluetooth)-- which gives 249 (MFSW), Bluetooth and USB/iPod and armrest. See the note at the bottom of the page "6NE will add MFSW and 473 Center Arm Rest"
 
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Originally Posted by ThommyG
Its not all that bad.. My JWC is set up as follows:
Paint
ZCV (convenience);
ZCW (cold weather);
ZPP (premium);
Other options:
522 (Xenon headlights);
5AA Rear fog lamp;
653 (HD radio);
6FD Mini Hif Sound;
Mudflaps
Clearshield
Window Tint
Dropping the radio and speakers would bring it under $35K
This is good for 35k but what makes this car "look" like a JCW?

You are not getting the JCW Aero Kit or the JCW suspension?
 
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Thanks, my misunderstanding. How does the SPORT button actually affect steering? Does it change the hydraulics in the steering?
I believe the MINIs have electric power steering.
 
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I think you want 6NE (Comfort Bluetooth)-- which gives 249 (MFSW), Bluetooth and USB/iPod and armrest. See the note at the bottom of the page "6NE will add MFSW and 473 Center Arm Rest"
Yeah I just noticed that, however there it costs $500 and when added to the "new" convenience package of $1250, is $250 more than the current convenience package with 6NE already included
 


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