R56 How fast have you gone?
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No, there is no limiter to speak of on the R53. Top speed was limited by drag.
And yes, the ECU has been modified (See custom dyno tune).
For what it's worth, the new R56 MINI with the same 8250 redline would be capable of a top speed of over 190 MPH. Of course, in the real world, where drag is an issue, that's impossible.
Stock redline: ~155 MPH gearing limited
8250 Redline: ~190 MPH gearing limited
See the difference revs make?
And yes, the ECU has been modified (See custom dyno tune).
For what it's worth, the new R56 MINI with the same 8250 redline would be capable of a top speed of over 190 MPH. Of course, in the real world, where drag is an issue, that's impossible.
Stock redline: ~155 MPH gearing limited
8250 Redline: ~190 MPH gearing limited
See the difference revs make?
#55
My friend Ronan did the European delivery thing with his BMW M6 when he bought it two years ago, had it delimited at Hartge, and made this little video one night on the Autobahn, it's all very legal, so no whining! The car in front is also an M6.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
#56
I've had my '03 MCS to 115 on the main straightaway at Heartland Park, Topeka, but it was a cool day - 55* ish, and there was a pretty good tail wind. Still, I thought it was very good considering the straight isn't all that long, and there's a 90* turn at the end!
I just use the cruise control on the highway, it's much cheaper and so much less stressful when you don't spend every second worrying about cops. Just do the speed limit, no problems.........
I just use the cruise control on the highway, it's much cheaper and so much less stressful when you don't spend every second worrying about cops. Just do the speed limit, no problems.........
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Not sure, in every car Jan has tuned not a single one has had an electronic speed limit. Mine topped out around where the speed limiter "Supposedly" comes into play, but that was a horsepower limitation.
When I asked him about this very thing he explained that it was a horsepower limitation, not an electronic speed limiter.
As far as I know the R56 was the first model to have an electronic speed limiter.
When I asked him about this very thing he explained that it was a horsepower limitation, not an electronic speed limiter.
As far as I know the R56 was the first model to have an electronic speed limiter.
#59
Test drive outside K-town Germany, 140ish, very stable, lots left. It actually came up pretty quick, and so did the car in front of me. Then I forgot to slow down for the exit ramp (Aushfart) and I didn't run off the road. That's when I decided I needed one of these!
#60
GUYS THIS IS A REALLY BAD THREAD!
Im am no prude and I drive my cars very "aggresively" but be really carefull what you post here. If you are going fast, make sure it is in a legal fashion. IE-in Germany on the Bahn. Saying you have gone 115 on the 15 or 110 on th 10 etc. etc. is a really a dumb idea. Insurance companies will serach boards like these for proof that you "race" your mini or drive it irresposibily if you get in an accident or worse! I know members here who have gotten in trouble for that. Its not a MYTH!
Just be careful
-Michael
Im am no prude and I drive my cars very "aggresively" but be really carefull what you post here. If you are going fast, make sure it is in a legal fashion. IE-in Germany on the Bahn. Saying you have gone 115 on the 15 or 110 on th 10 etc. etc. is a really a dumb idea. Insurance companies will serach boards like these for proof that you "race" your mini or drive it irresposibily if you get in an accident or worse! I know members here who have gotten in trouble for that. Its not a MYTH!
Just be careful
-Michael
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Not sure, in every car Jan has tuned not a single one has had an electronic speed limit. Mine topped out around where the speed limiter "Supposedly" comes into play, but that was a horsepower limitation.
When I asked him about this very thing he explained that it was a horsepower limitation, not an electronic speed limiter.
As far as I know the R56 was the first model to have an electronic speed limiter.
When I asked him about this very thing he explained that it was a horsepower limitation, not an electronic speed limiter.
As far as I know the R56 was the first model to have an electronic speed limiter.
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In reality friction (While certainly part of the equation) is a very small component. Drag, and frontal area are the majority of what needs to be considered for top speed.
Consider this, a change of a couple hundred lbs only directly affects horsepower required to attain x (Where x is speed) by a few ponies.
So lets say you use 200 lbs as the weight of the object, then use 2900 lbs as the weight of an object. The difference is only about 20 HP.
Here's a great calculator that factors in pretty much everything.
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/aerohpca...v=157&hp=274.9
Consider this, a change of a couple hundred lbs only directly affects horsepower required to attain x (Where x is speed) by a few ponies.
So lets say you use 200 lbs as the weight of the object, then use 2900 lbs as the weight of an object. The difference is only about 20 HP.
Here's a great calculator that factors in pretty much everything.
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/aerohpca...v=157&hp=274.9
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Just an informal poll as to the highest speed you have had you MINI up to. Did it scare you? Anything that you noticed? I am not so much afraid of the speed, but the consequences of getting caught. I've had mine up to 95 but chickened out when I saw the white Crown Vic ahead.
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GUYS THIS IS A REALLY BAD THREAD!
Im am no prude and I drive my cars very "aggresively" but be really carefull what you post here. If you are going fast, make sure it is in a legal fashion. IE-in Germany on the Bahn. Saying you have gone 115 on the 15 or 110 on th 10 etc. etc. is a really a dumb idea. Insurance companies will serach boards like these for proof that you "race" your mini or drive it irresposibily if you get in an accident or worse! I know members here who have gotten in trouble for that. Its not a MYTH!
Just be careful
-Michael
Im am no prude and I drive my cars very "aggresively" but be really carefull what you post here. If you are going fast, make sure it is in a legal fashion. IE-in Germany on the Bahn. Saying you have gone 115 on the 15 or 110 on th 10 etc. etc. is a really a dumb idea. Insurance companies will serach boards like these for proof that you "race" your mini or drive it irresposibily if you get in an accident or worse! I know members here who have gotten in trouble for that. Its not a MYTH!
Just be careful
-Michael
First off, nobody really knows who any of us are, Insurance companies don't have the legal authority to audit IP addresses, contact ISP's, etc. "Rustyboy" doesn't mean much to my insurance company, even if they did have enough free time to be cruising car forums looking for talk of their insured's violating laws.
Second off, who's to say that my friend that doesn't like me didn't sign into my account and post all of what I posted?
There's no legal basis for penalization of an insured for speeding based on forum discussions. Police also can't just arbitrarily issue tickets to anyone they please, they need to WITNESS the actual violation. If you see someone speed past you on the freeway at 140 MPH then call the police with their license plate, guess what, nothing happens.
There have been some cases where people have entered claims, and the insurance company researched the claim to see if what the person said was correct.
Case in point, I know a member who totaled his car, he made a claim on his insurance, who noticed his club affiliation with SCMM (Southern California Mini Maniacs). They went to the forums there, and realized that the insured was an enthusiast, they then made the leap that since there's a bunch of MINI's that gather together, they must race. They tried to deny his claim. In the end it didn't work, because the whole thing was ludicrous, but still, it happened.
To say that insurance agents actively cruise car forums though and match up online screen names to insured clients (then deny coverages based on claims of activities that may or may not even be true) is just silly though...
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All the rev limiter does is cut fuel off once you reach it (So the car doesn't continue to rev past it's intended design limits).
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GUYS THIS IS A REALLY BAD THREAD!
Im am no prude and I drive my cars very "aggresively" but be really carefull what you post here. If you are going fast, make sure it is in a legal fashion. IE-in Germany on the Bahn. Saying you have gone 115 on the 15 or 110 on th 10 etc. etc. is a really a dumb idea. Insurance companies will serach boards like these for proof that you "race" your mini or drive it irresposibily if you get in an accident or worse! I know members here who have gotten in trouble for that. Its not a MYTH!
Just be careful
-Michael
Im am no prude and I drive my cars very "aggresively" but be really carefull what you post here. If you are going fast, make sure it is in a legal fashion. IE-in Germany on the Bahn. Saying you have gone 115 on the 15 or 110 on th 10 etc. etc. is a really a dumb idea. Insurance companies will serach boards like these for proof that you "race" your mini or drive it irresposibily if you get in an accident or worse! I know members here who have gotten in trouble for that. Its not a MYTH!
Just be careful
-Michael
#67
All,
I'd like to remind you of a NAM Site Guideline:
I'm amazed that this thread is still open!
I have seen my '06 MCS at 105 on the track during a DE and felt fine as I keep the car well maintained and I had fresh tires and a good alignment. Being a bit lower than a stock MINI with a better suspension probably helped too. I did have more speed available, had I not run out of straight track.
Please do not post about excess speed on a public road.
I'd like to remind you of a NAM Site Guideline:
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Posts relating to street racing, excessive speeding, or violations of other laws are prohibited. If you want to race, take it to a legal venue.
.I'm amazed that this thread is still open!
I have seen my '06 MCS at 105 on the track during a DE and felt fine as I keep the car well maintained and I had fresh tires and a good alignment. Being a bit lower than a stock MINI with a better suspension probably helped too. I did have more speed available, had I not run out of straight track.
Please do not post about excess speed on a public road.
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All,
I'd like to remind you of a NAM Site Guideline:
I'm amazed that this thread is still open!
I have seen my '06 MCS at 105 on the track during a DE and felt fine as I keep the car well maintained and I had fresh tires and a good alignment. Being a bit lower than a stock MINI with a better suspension probably helped too. I did have more speed available, had I not run out of straight track.
Please do not post about excess speed on a public road.
I'd like to remind you of a NAM Site Guideline:
LEGAL
Posts relating to street racing, excessive speeding, or violations of other laws are prohibited. If you want to race, take it to a legal venue.
.I'm amazed that this thread is still open!
I have seen my '06 MCS at 105 on the track during a DE and felt fine as I keep the car well maintained and I had fresh tires and a good alignment. Being a bit lower than a stock MINI with a better suspension probably helped too. I did have more speed available, had I not run out of straight track.
Please do not post about excess speed on a public road.
Mark (The founder of NAM) has already visited. Subsequent conversation hasn't violated any site guidelines.
#69
The rev limiter is the same in all gears. Stock is ~6800 in the R53. With the stock rev limit and gearing the car is limited to approximately 163 mph.
All the rev limiter does is cut fuel off once you reach it (So the car doesn't continue to rev past it's intended design limits).
All the rev limiter does is cut fuel off once you reach it (So the car doesn't continue to rev past it's intended design limits).
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Sort of. You can fudge that a bit with tires, and even more obviously by raising the rev limit. 163 is realistically faster than most any R53 or R56 MINI will be able to attain unless some significant Coefficient of drag modifications were made, or you're pushing crazy HP.