R56 prep/doc fee
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$489.50 'administration handling doc and notary fee' at Tom Bush Mini of Jacksonville Florida.
plus $650 destination handling charge, and $191 tag/registration fee
They threw in mats (front back and boot) and sunvisor.
To their credit they did try to give me free installation on driving lamps. I decided to take them off the car before ordering.
plus $650 destination handling charge, and $191 tag/registration fee
They threw in mats (front back and boot) and sunvisor.
To their credit they did try to give me free installation on driving lamps. I decided to take them off the car before ordering.
#31
Here is my breakdown from WestchesterMini
Application processing fee: $45.00
Registration Fee: $130 - I think this is dictated by DMV (NY)
Inspection Fee: $10
Waste Tire Management Fee: $10 - Should get this removed... where is the waste tire on a new car??
Anway, pretty reasonable $45 doc/prep fee.
Application processing fee: $45.00
Registration Fee: $130 - I think this is dictated by DMV (NY)
Inspection Fee: $10
Waste Tire Management Fee: $10 - Should get this removed... where is the waste tire on a new car??
Anway, pretty reasonable $45 doc/prep fee.
All tire retailers/dealers have to charge that fee, since it is mandated by the government of NY. This is to fund the recycling costs of the old tires you turn in when you get a new set.
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Florida area dealer fees
Well Downtown Mini in Orlando charges the dealer of $389. I'm not sure what the others charge. I"m sure it's negotiable, but I haven't tried yet so we'll see. I'm not sure what the other dealerships charge around here. The car itself goes for MSRP.<...> Basically I know he'll say there is a $389 "doc" fee so I'm going to reply with "That's going to be removed, right?"
I'm not to sure what his reply will be but regardless I don't want to pay it. If I'm paying MSRP for a car I don't think I should have too. Anywho, if he does want to change it I may just cancel the order and go to another MA there at the dealership who will.
Any thoughts? This is my first new car buying experience.
I'm not to sure what his reply will be but regardless I don't want to pay it. If I'm paying MSRP for a car I don't think I should have too. Anywho, if he does want to change it I may just cancel the order and go to another MA there at the dealership who will.
Any thoughts? This is my first new car buying experience.
$489.50 'administration handling doc and notary fee' at Tom Bush Mini of Jacksonville Florida.
plus $650 destination handling charge, and $191 tag/registration fee
They threw in mats (front back and boot) and sunvisor.
To their credit they did try to give me free installation on driving lamps. I decided to take them off the car before ordering.
plus $650 destination handling charge, and $191 tag/registration fee
They threw in mats (front back and boot) and sunvisor.
To their credit they did try to give me free installation on driving lamps. I decided to take them off the car before ordering.
The Florida Dealers (and not Just MINI Dealers) all seem to have this 'extra profit' "Non-negotiable" fees of $4-600 tacked on to your cost.
After you have placed a deposit or signed a purchase order, your ability to "Negotiate" would be limited.
You need to consider the value of your time as well as the cost of travel for visiting all eight (or so) Florida MINI Dealers for a possible 'best deal'.
You Do Need to be there and feel comfortable with the purchase and your MA and his Dealer before you make a comintment on a 'deal'.
After you think your 'deal' is done, your MA is going to turn you over to the financial office (often over at the BMW side) and now you need to use great care and judgement as this is the place where car dealers expect to add a few more thousand in profit by signing you up for overpriced 'extras' and plans.
Ferman MINI(/BMW) was very fair and easy to deal with at this point with no 'extra's added and even mailed a refund on an extra tag I needed, since I did not leave a 'trade-in' but phoned him three days later to transfer my original Tag. My MA was Oliver Morris and he presented the most comfortable automobile purchase I had ever experienced.
My MINI was perfectly prepared with none of those 'cosmoline' or other issues that NAM buyers have had to deal with, the floor mats were never discussed but were added to the car before I left with a full tank of gas.
I was completely pleased to accomplish in one day, what I had expected to spend several days to complete and especially that there was such a large inventory to see and choose one that was exactly what I would have expected to 'order'.
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pilotart I actually got a great deal from Vista MINI after visiting the 3 local Mini dealerships in my area and they gave me a lot more for my trade in and discounted off the MSRP which certainly reduced the standard charge prep/doc fees plus I received a check in the mail for a refund on the tag transfer.
I just looked at the Ferman MINI/BMW link you posted and 65 MINIs is a big inventory to have right now which is great to see although they could be including the ordered ones too in that.
I just looked at the Ferman MINI/BMW link you posted and 65 MINIs is a big inventory to have right now which is great to see although they could be including the ordered ones too in that.
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pilotart I actually got a great deal from Vista MINI after visiting the 3 local Mini dealerships in my area and they gave me a lot more for my trade in and discounted off the MSRP which certainly reduced the standard charge prep/doc fees plus I received a check in the mail for a refund on the tag transfer.
I just looked at the Ferman MINI/BMW link you posted and 65 MINIs is a big inventory to have right now which is great to see although they could be including the ordered ones too in that.
I just looked at the Ferman MINI/BMW link you posted and 65 MINIs is a big inventory to have right now which is great to see although they could be including the ordered ones too in that.
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pilotart I actually got a great deal from Vista MINI after visiting the 3 local Mini dealerships in my area and they gave me a lot more for my trade in and discounted off the MSRP which certainly reduced the standard charge prep/doc fees plus I received a check in the mail for a refund on the tag transfer.
I just looked at the Ferman MINI/BMW link you posted and 65 MINIs is a big inventory to have right now which is great to see although they could be including the ordered ones too in that.
I just looked at the Ferman MINI/BMW link you posted and 65 MINIs is a big inventory to have right now which is great to see although they could be including the ordered ones too in that.
In fact your 32nd Post on NAM was very valuable information for my quest, thank you for writing it.
I had just quoted your post to show one of the Florida 'FEE's to expect.
When I went to Ferman in April, they did have 60+ cars in stock to look at and nearly 40 of them were available to purchase, my objective had been to see the colors and sit in the interiors. Turned out that my MINI-USA Configurator choices did not 'look' or 'sit' very well at all for me. Luck for me that the Color which looked best 'in-person' was also equipped exactly and I was its first (and last) 'test-driver'.
They ARE including ones that are already sold, as I found mine listed in the inventory!! I will say.. they did throw in car mats and lic. plate holder... however, I do feel I am paying A LOT for the driving lights and mudflaps to be installed (1295.00) Oh well... Our MA at Ferman's has been a pleasure to work with - +1 there!
Fermans other website only lists two R53 MINI's in stock (2006 models).
A flight on August 14th had taken me within two miles of Downtown MINI in Orlando, so I visited for my post-break-in oil change supplies, their showroom was full of nice used MINI's but just two new ones. From what I saw, they would be an excellent MINI Dealer as well, but just twice as far for me to travel.
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#46
Texas law limits dealers to a $50 doc fee which they almost all charge. In our town, it would take you at least an hour in line at one of the tax accessor/collectors to register it yourself so $50 is a bargain to me. Here in Houston, Momentum (owned by Sonic) used to charge a $497 "dealer services package" that wasn't going to come off no matter what. Once their competition MINI of the Woodlands came to town and didn't charge a fee like that, Momentum eventually dropped their's. The manufacturer's delivery/shipping charge which is on the window sticker covers transportation and dealer prep. Anything they are charging you extra is just added gravy for them. That said, if local practice allows them to get away with it, don't just expect them to drop it because someone on NAM in another part of the country says so.
#47
Here's a link on Edmund's site pertaining to max. doc fees broken down by state. Also, taxes and advice as to what you shouldn't have to pay for.
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying...4/article.html
Cheers.
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying...4/article.html
Cheers.
#48
Here's a link on Edmund's site pertaining to max. doc fees broken down by state. Also, taxes and advice as to what you shouldn't have to pay for.
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying...4/article.html
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying...4/article.html
#49
No I'm in Houston. I got free mats, wheel locks (didnt' even ask for these) and free grocery bag holder :D
#50
Texas law limits dealers to a $50 doc fee which they almost all charge. In our town, it would take you at least an hour in line at one of the tax accessor/collectors to register it yourself so $50 is a bargain to me. Here in Houston, Momentum (owned by Sonic) used to charge a $497 "dealer services package" that wasn't going to come off no matter what. Once their competition MINI of the Woodlands came to town and didn't charge a fee like that, Momentum eventually dropped their's. The manufacturer's delivery/shipping charge which is on the window sticker covers transportation and dealer prep. Anything they are charging you extra is just added gravy for them. That said, if local practice allows them to get away with it, don't just expect them to drop it because someone on NAM in another part of the country says so.