R56 So sad
#1
So sad
After joining this site and only having my car for under a month,I want to get rid of it.
Reading about all this silly issues on a 30K car,I dont want to deal with the problems.
Should have known better on not buying an american car.I've never own a foreign car and now know why I dont like them.
I have to worry about this stupid yellow goo dripping on my fender skirts,Hood scoop melting,Finding an exhaust that doesnt give me a CEL.Lame Speaker issues on Hi fi.
I could write a book on problems with this BMW car that we shouldnt have to deal with.
Now,If I can find a sucker to buy these problems and I go back to my American heritage
Reading about all this silly issues on a 30K car,I dont want to deal with the problems.
Should have known better on not buying an american car.I've never own a foreign car and now know why I dont like them.
I have to worry about this stupid yellow goo dripping on my fender skirts,Hood scoop melting,Finding an exhaust that doesnt give me a CEL.Lame Speaker issues on Hi fi.
I could write a book on problems with this BMW car that we shouldnt have to deal with.
Now,If I can find a sucker to buy these problems and I go back to my American heritage
#3
The yellow goo was taken care of quickly when I took my car in to have it serviced. I pointed it out, they detailed it, and they sent me home with a grease remover from their shop just in case.
As to the other problems--cars are cars. They all have pluses and minuses. My Jetta had a fan blow up in the engine. My Ford had issues with the fuel pump. Mom's Range Rover has issues with the suspension system. All good cars, but each with their own issues. However, I would not trade the fun I have driving my MINI nor the excellent gas mileage for a run of the mill American made car.
Nevertheless, good luck with your new car....
As to the other problems--cars are cars. They all have pluses and minuses. My Jetta had a fan blow up in the engine. My Ford had issues with the fuel pump. Mom's Range Rover has issues with the suspension system. All good cars, but each with their own issues. However, I would not trade the fun I have driving my MINI nor the excellent gas mileage for a run of the mill American made car.
Nevertheless, good luck with your new car....
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#7
good luck finding ANY American car that wont let you at the side of the road broke down. You also should know that a 30 Thousand $ American car is worth 18 grand 1 year later. Perhaps when you find one reliable you can post the make so we all can take a look. Once again best wishes to you, how much you selling yours for?
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#8
Don't forget that there have been over two million MINIs sold, and there are only a couple thousand regular posters here on NAM. Nothing you read here, good or bad, can fairly claim to represent the quality of MINI in general.
Plus, you hear a lot more about peoples' problems on a forum like this than you hear about the trouble-free miles. I know I'd be frightened after reading some of the posts here, but if I just look at our two MINIs, the only problems we've had personally are a failed wheel-speed sensor (her car), and a leaking motor mount and very intermittent wiper motor problem (mine). That's with about 30k miles on her MINI and about 40k on mine, so I'm pretty happy.
Plus, you hear a lot more about peoples' problems on a forum like this than you hear about the trouble-free miles. I know I'd be frightened after reading some of the posts here, but if I just look at our two MINIs, the only problems we've had personally are a failed wheel-speed sensor (her car), and a leaking motor mount and very intermittent wiper motor problem (mine). That's with about 30k miles on her MINI and about 40k on mine, so I'm pretty happy.
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#9
You must realize that the problem-filled posts you've read on this site are all from the few MINI owners who have problems, seeking answers from their MINI-owning piers. There are so many more of us who don't need to post threads entitled, "50,000 miles, and still problem-free!!!". What do you expect?
As to American cars being so decidedly better in terms of quality and reliability... Hmmm, I'd love to know your source on that "fact".
It sounds to me like you're bitter, and probably are experiencing buyer's remorse and/or guilt for not buying American like you usually do. If that is the case, than I echo the other comments, in saying good luck finding the problem-free American car of your dreams.
The MINI is not without its' problems and glitches. Most of us know that, (especially the owners of the early first generation cars). The fact is that we love the fun-to-drive experience so much, that it far outweighs any problems we've had. That is how I look at it, at least.
I would venture a guess, that you don't place "fun-to-drive" very high up on your want list for a car.
As I'm fond of saying: "Life is too short to drive a boring car"
As to American cars being so decidedly better in terms of quality and reliability... Hmmm, I'd love to know your source on that "fact".
It sounds to me like you're bitter, and probably are experiencing buyer's remorse and/or guilt for not buying American like you usually do. If that is the case, than I echo the other comments, in saying good luck finding the problem-free American car of your dreams.
The MINI is not without its' problems and glitches. Most of us know that, (especially the owners of the early first generation cars). The fact is that we love the fun-to-drive experience so much, that it far outweighs any problems we've had. That is how I look at it, at least.
I would venture a guess, that you don't place "fun-to-drive" very high up on your want list for a car.
As I'm fond of saying: "Life is too short to drive a boring car"
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I've owned many many cars and have found the MINI to be quite well built. I don't expect any car to be perfect.
I'm on my second (2003 MC, followed by 2007 MCS) and have driven over 60k miles total. I've only had a few minor issues, the sort of things you'll find in any car. I've never been stranded by my MINI and all problems have been quickly dispatched under warranty by East Bay MINI. Its a great car, great fun to drive, and great resale value.
I'm on my second (2003 MC, followed by 2007 MCS) and have driven over 60k miles total. I've only had a few minor issues, the sort of things you'll find in any car. I've never been stranded by my MINI and all problems have been quickly dispatched under warranty by East Bay MINI. Its a great car, great fun to drive, and great resale value.
#11
Don't forget that there have been over two million MINIs sold, and there are only a couple thousand regular posters here on NAM. Nothing you read here, good or bad, can fairly claim to represent the quality of MINI in general.
Plus, you hear a lot more about peoples' problems on a forum like this than you hear about the trouble-free miles. I know I'd be frightened after reading some of the posts here, but if I just look at our two MINIs, the only problems we've had personally is a failed wheel-speed sensor (her car), and a leaking motor mount and very intermittent wiper motor problem (mine). That's with about 30k miles on her MINI and about 40k on mine, so I'm pretty happy.
Plus, you hear a lot more about peoples' problems on a forum like this than you hear about the trouble-free miles. I know I'd be frightened after reading some of the posts here, but if I just look at our two MINIs, the only problems we've had personally is a failed wheel-speed sensor (her car), and a leaking motor mount and very intermittent wiper motor problem (mine). That's with about 30k miles on her MINI and about 40k on mine, so I'm pretty happy.
Why are these cars so touchy?I want an exhaust,but dont want to worry about a cel.I live 140 miles from a dealer and not driving back and forth everytime i have a issue
#12
You are more likely right.It just su*ks that I read about all this silly issues.All the Caddys Ive owned or Gm cars,I've never had one issue.Could have been just lucky.
Why are these cars so touchy?I want an exhaust,but dont want to worry about a cel.I live 140 miles from a dealer and not driving back and forth everytime i have a issue
Why are these cars so touchy?I want an exhaust,but dont want to worry about a cel.I live 140 miles from a dealer and not driving back and forth everytime i have a issue
Now, if you start doing things like bypassing the catalytic converters and installing an O2 simulator, or replacing the cats with high-flow aftermarket pieces, of course your chances of tripping some kind of engine warning go way up.
#13
Quit READING and go DRIVING
You are more likely right.It just su*ks that I read about all this silly issues.All the Caddys Ive owned or Gm cars,I've never had one issue.Could have been just lucky.
Why are these cars so touchy?I want an exhaust,but dont want to worry about a cel.I live 140 miles from a dealer and not driving back and forth everytime i have a issue
Why are these cars so touchy?I want an exhaust,but dont want to worry about a cel.I live 140 miles from a dealer and not driving back and forth everytime i have a issue
On behalf of the entire NAM group, I want to apologize for the pain that READING about "silly issues" brings you. Are you serious? Go look at any forum...try Toyota. There's PLENTY of B*TCHING GOING ON.
I just looked at your posts and I don't see YOU having any big problems. Stay off this forum and go drive your car. Be aware that this forum attracts problems rather than praise...it's just the nature of people. I live 160 miles from my dealer and he hasn't seen me since a week after I got the car in May of 07. Do you really think these little bombers would be flying off the lot and having such high resale value if they were truly bad cars?? Geez.
#14
After joining this site and only having my car for under a month,I want to get rid of it.
Reading about all this silly issues on a 30K car,I dont want to deal with the problems.
Should have known better on not buying an american car.I've never own a foreign car and now know why I dont like them.
I have to worry about this stupid yellow goo dripping on my fender skirts,Hood scoop melting,Finding an exhaust that doesnt give me a CEL.Lame Speaker issues on Hi fi.
I could write a book on problems with this BMW car that we shouldnt have to deal with.
Now,If I can find a sucker to buy these problems and I go back to my American heritage
Reading about all this silly issues on a 30K car,I dont want to deal with the problems.
Should have known better on not buying an american car.I've never own a foreign car and now know why I dont like them.
I have to worry about this stupid yellow goo dripping on my fender skirts,Hood scoop melting,Finding an exhaust that doesnt give me a CEL.Lame Speaker issues on Hi fi.
I could write a book on problems with this BMW car that we shouldnt have to deal with.
Now,If I can find a sucker to buy these problems and I go back to my American heritage
#16
Surfblue says:
On behalf of the entire NAM group, I want to apologize for the pain that READING about "silly issues" brings you. Are you serious? Go look at any forum...try Toyota. There's PLENTY of B*TCHING GOING ON.
I just looked at your posts and I don't see YOU having any big problems. Stay off this forum and go drive your car. Be aware that this forum attracts problems rather than praise...it's just the nature of people. I live 160 miles from my dealer and he hasn't seen me since a week after I got the car in May of 07. Do you really think these little bombers would be flying off the lot and having such high resale value if they were truly bad cars?? Geez.
On behalf of the entire NAM group, I want to apologize for the pain that READING about "silly issues" brings you. Are you serious? Go look at any forum...try Toyota. There's PLENTY of B*TCHING GOING ON.
I just looked at your posts and I don't see YOU having any big problems. Stay off this forum and go drive your car. Be aware that this forum attracts problems rather than praise...it's just the nature of people. I live 160 miles from my dealer and he hasn't seen me since a week after I got the car in May of 07. Do you really think these little bombers would be flying off the lot and having such high resale value if they were truly bad cars?? Geez.
I only joined here to learn where to buy stuff to mod the car.From what i've read seems most mods cause a problem with the ECU.I have No retail store close by me to go learn about the products for these cars.
#17
A person I became freinds w/@ work -- not knowing my history with cars many years prior -- had said in response to hearing I was considering a CTS-V [because it had a manual tranni] "don't buy, lease, because you'll want to get rid of it by 40K or 50K miles after things start falling off it." Ya, "!!!!" is what I thought & "hahahaha" is what I said. Independent corroboration is what that is... This, about the supposed "premier" GM brand.
.... & u wanna get rid of a car just after reading about things from the off'times very vocal minority?
#18
This has to be the first time this has ever been uttered in the history of the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a GM hater, I own a nice '65 SS but GM has always built junk, even back in its glory days. As much as I love my Chevy, it is and always was a pile of junk relative to my MINI.
#19
As for your American cars ...yes, you have been lucky. My guess is your current MINI will be more reliable than your next Detroit built transportation appliance.
#20
Here maybe you should read this just posted an hour ago:
General Motors is recalling 944,000 vehicles because of a problem with the windshield wiper fluid system that could lead to a fire.
The recall involves more than 850,000 sport utility vehicles, trucks and passenger cars in the U.S. and nearly 100,000 vehicles in Canada, Mexico and the Middle East.
It involves the 2008 Buick Enclave, 2006-2008 Buick Lucerne, 2006-2008 Cadillac DTS, versions of the 2007-2008 Cadillac Escalade, 2007-2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Tahoe and Suburban, 2007-2008 GMC Acadia, Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL, 2006-2008 Hummer H2 and 2007-2008 Saturn Outlook.
The recall involves vehicles with a heated washer fluid system. A short circuit in the system could cause electrical features to malfunction. There have been nine reports of fires, but no accidents or injuries.
General Motors is recalling 944,000 vehicles because of a problem with the windshield wiper fluid system that could lead to a fire.
The recall involves more than 850,000 sport utility vehicles, trucks and passenger cars in the U.S. and nearly 100,000 vehicles in Canada, Mexico and the Middle East.
It involves the 2008 Buick Enclave, 2006-2008 Buick Lucerne, 2006-2008 Cadillac DTS, versions of the 2007-2008 Cadillac Escalade, 2007-2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Tahoe and Suburban, 2007-2008 GMC Acadia, Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL, 2006-2008 Hummer H2 and 2007-2008 Saturn Outlook.
The recall involves vehicles with a heated washer fluid system. A short circuit in the system could cause electrical features to malfunction. There have been nine reports of fires, but no accidents or injuries.
#21
I have no desire to read about Toyota's,Honda's,Subaru's or any Japanese car,Not my type.
I only joined here to learn where to buy stuff to mod the car.From what i've read seems most mods cause a problem with the ECU.I have No retail store close by me to go learn about the products for these cars.
I only joined here to learn where to buy stuff to mod the car.From what i've read seems most mods cause a problem with the ECU.I have No retail store close by me to go learn about the products for these cars.
I can share from my experience with quite a few aftermarket parts that most of them don't cause any issues what-so-ever, and many of the issues that do arrise are simply installation errors made by non-mechanics doing their own work.
#22
Here maybe you should read this just posted an hour ago:
General Motors is recalling 944,000 vehicles because of a problem with the windshield wiper fluid system that could lead to a fire.
The recall involves more than 850,000 sport utility vehicles, trucks and passenger cars in the U.S. and nearly 100,000 vehicles in Canada, Mexico and the Middle East.
It involves the 2008 Buick Enclave, 2006-2008 Buick Lucerne, 2006-2008 Cadillac DTS, versions of the 2007-2008 Cadillac Escalade, 2007-2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Tahoe and Suburban, 2007-2008 GMC Acadia, Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL, 2006-2008 Hummer H2 and 2007-2008 Saturn Outlook.
The recall involves vehicles with a heated washer fluid system. A short circuit in the system could cause electrical features to malfunction. There have been nine reports of fires, but no accidents or injuries.
General Motors is recalling 944,000 vehicles because of a problem with the windshield wiper fluid system that could lead to a fire.
The recall involves more than 850,000 sport utility vehicles, trucks and passenger cars in the U.S. and nearly 100,000 vehicles in Canada, Mexico and the Middle East.
It involves the 2008 Buick Enclave, 2006-2008 Buick Lucerne, 2006-2008 Cadillac DTS, versions of the 2007-2008 Cadillac Escalade, 2007-2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Tahoe and Suburban, 2007-2008 GMC Acadia, Sierra, Yukon and Yukon XL, 2006-2008 Hummer H2 and 2007-2008 Saturn Outlook.
The recall involves vehicles with a heated washer fluid system. A short circuit in the system could cause electrical features to malfunction. There have been nine reports of fires, but no accidents or injuries.
I'm just as American and the next person, but when it comes to reliable, dependable, economical, and FUN transportation, I will take my new Mini over any one of them!
#24
What Scott says is true and I've said it on here often.
You are basing your decision on the loud minority and not paying attention to the silent majority who have had no major issues with their MINI.
But hey... go to a Ford forum (is there such a thing??) and see if there are more or less problems reported on that board.
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You are basing your decision on the loud minority and not paying attention to the silent majority who have had no major issues with their MINI.
But hey... go to a Ford forum (is there such a thing??) and see if there are more or less problems reported on that board.
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssEE ya !
#25