R56 I broke down and took a JCW for a test drive...
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I broke down and took a JCW for a test drive...
I've been going back and forth as to whether or not I should trade/sell my Cooper S in for a JCW.
I've got the JCW Stage I kit, JCW coilsprings, JCW aerokit and JCW big brakes (front only) Other than a few mods like rear swaybar, clearbra, DDM intake, it's basically stock...
I'm trying to work a deal where I'll kick in 3K and I'll be 3K upside down. I'll get to keep my JCW aerokit and springs.
6K upside down you say?? Well, hear me out. 3K is just normal usage on my car. My S is one year older with 29K miles. Surely it's worth 3K less to me if I were to sell it. (I know, I know, it's worth less than that...) So I'll pull that 3K out of my pocket and put it towards the new JCW.
The other 3K that I'm going to be upside down in will be buried in the refinancing. I know it's still 3K I'll have to pay but with the interest rate down to 2.9% from mini (down from the 8-9% I'm paying now) will offset that cost.
So basically I'll have the same car with a factory JCW and non leather seats. It will obviously be a year newer and 20K less miles.
Good idea, bad?
Oh yeah, the next important question...
Mellow Yellow with black roof.
Mark
I've got the JCW Stage I kit, JCW coilsprings, JCW aerokit and JCW big brakes (front only) Other than a few mods like rear swaybar, clearbra, DDM intake, it's basically stock...
I'm trying to work a deal where I'll kick in 3K and I'll be 3K upside down. I'll get to keep my JCW aerokit and springs.
6K upside down you say?? Well, hear me out. 3K is just normal usage on my car. My S is one year older with 29K miles. Surely it's worth 3K less to me if I were to sell it. (I know, I know, it's worth less than that...) So I'll pull that 3K out of my pocket and put it towards the new JCW.
The other 3K that I'm going to be upside down in will be buried in the refinancing. I know it's still 3K I'll have to pay but with the interest rate down to 2.9% from mini (down from the 8-9% I'm paying now) will offset that cost.
So basically I'll have the same car with a factory JCW and non leather seats. It will obviously be a year newer and 20K less miles.
Good idea, bad?
Oh yeah, the next important question...
Mellow Yellow with black roof.
Mark
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I'm not sure how long you've been toying with the idea of trading up to a JCW, but I'd say sleep on it for at least a week (or a month, or a few months if you can stand it). Personally, the idea of being upside down on a car is quite unsettling to me.
Sometimes I find myself lusting after whatever mod for my MINI, or some other car that to replace my MINI. Then I take it out for a nice ride and realize how much fun my car is as it is. That usually gets me out of that funk.
My $.02!
Sometimes I find myself lusting after whatever mod for my MINI, or some other car that to replace my MINI. Then I take it out for a nice ride and realize how much fun my car is as it is. That usually gets me out of that funk.
My $.02!
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Dchap,
Do we know each other? You seem to know me pretty well...
Tu13es,
I agree, I hate the thought of being upside down BUT....
With the 2.9% financing, I can technically add 6K to the JCW and STILL come out 60-70 per month less than I'm paying now.
The way I look at it (which probably is wrong...lol) is.....
I'm going to end up with a year newer car with a factory JCW for 60-70 per month less.
I get to keep my aerokit (and hitch)
The only thing I'm out is a clearbra and $1735 (includes installation) for a JCW Stage I kit.
I'll let them run the numbers and see what happens.
Mark
Do we know each other? You seem to know me pretty well...
Tu13es,
I agree, I hate the thought of being upside down BUT....
With the 2.9% financing, I can technically add 6K to the JCW and STILL come out 60-70 per month less than I'm paying now.
The way I look at it (which probably is wrong...lol) is.....
I'm going to end up with a year newer car with a factory JCW for 60-70 per month less.
I get to keep my aerokit (and hitch)
The only thing I'm out is a clearbra and $1735 (includes installation) for a JCW Stage I kit.
I'll let them run the numbers and see what happens.
Mark
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I can't tell you whether it's worth it or not. My wife hasn't put enough miles on her JCW yet for me to be able to wind it out yet.
As far as being "upside-down", that just means you haven't yet paid for what you have already used. That's a sunk cost and shouldn't be used to determine whether or not you want to buy another car (unless paying off your past sins won't let you pay for your new vices). Unfortunately, the car depreciates fastest during the first year or two of life. That's why it's always the most cost effective to buy a 1 or 2 year old car. Buy it new only if you plan on keeping it for a decade or two.
As far as being "upside-down", that just means you haven't yet paid for what you have already used. That's a sunk cost and shouldn't be used to determine whether or not you want to buy another car (unless paying off your past sins won't let you pay for your new vices). Unfortunately, the car depreciates fastest during the first year or two of life. That's why it's always the most cost effective to buy a 1 or 2 year old car. Buy it new only if you plan on keeping it for a decade or two.
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I did it!!!!
I traded my car in. I got 23,300 for a trade in. That left me 6K upside down.
Under normal circumstances, there is NO WAY I would buy a car and take a 6K hit. (not including the JCW stage I kit and springs)
BUT, I get to keep my JCW aero kit and even with the 6K hit, I'm paying 60 bucks a month less and for 6 months less in time.
That MORE than makes up for the 6K loss plus I'm in a new JCW with zero miles.
The mods begin..... (hurry up Adam)
Mark
I traded my car in. I got 23,300 for a trade in. That left me 6K upside down.
Under normal circumstances, there is NO WAY I would buy a car and take a 6K hit. (not including the JCW stage I kit and springs)
BUT, I get to keep my JCW aero kit and even with the 6K hit, I'm paying 60 bucks a month less and for 6 months less in time.
That MORE than makes up for the 6K loss plus I'm in a new JCW with zero miles.
The mods begin..... (hurry up Adam)
Mark
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I just did the same thing. I traded my '07 MCS for an '09 JCW and do not regret it for a sec. I was about $2k upside down, but with the 2.9% and almost a $3k discount on the car, it was a no brainer.
I thought that I loved MINI's before, but with the JCW, this thing is incredible.
You made the right decision.
I thought that I loved MINI's before, but with the JCW, this thing is incredible.
You made the right decision.
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.
PFD,
I'm glad to hear that. I was hoping I wasn't being foolish trading in a beautiful car modded to the way I liked it just to get a true JCW.
I'm sure I'll be happy...
Mark
PFD,
I'm glad to hear that. I was hoping I wasn't being foolish trading in a beautiful car modded to the way I liked it just to get a true JCW.
I'm sure I'll be happy...
Mark
I just did the same thing. I traded my '07 MCS for an '09 JCW and do not regret it for a sec. I was about $2k upside down, but with the 2.9% and almost a $3k discount on the car, it was a no brainer.
I thought that I loved MINI's before, but with the JCW, this thing is incredible.
You made the right decision.
I thought that I loved MINI's before, but with the JCW, this thing is incredible.
You made the right decision.
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I did it!!!!
I traded my car in. I got 23,300 for a trade in. That left me 6K upside down.
Under normal circumstances, there is NO WAY I would buy a car and take a 6K hit. (not including the JCW stage I kit and springs)
BUT, I get to keep my JCW aero kit and even with the 6K hit, I'm paying 60 bucks a month less and for 6 months less in time.
That MORE than makes up for the 6K loss plus I'm in a new JCW with zero miles.
The mods begin..... (hurry up Adam)
Mark
I traded my car in. I got 23,300 for a trade in. That left me 6K upside down.
Under normal circumstances, there is NO WAY I would buy a car and take a 6K hit. (not including the JCW stage I kit and springs)
BUT, I get to keep my JCW aero kit and even with the 6K hit, I'm paying 60 bucks a month less and for 6 months less in time.
That MORE than makes up for the 6K loss plus I'm in a new JCW with zero miles.
The mods begin..... (hurry up Adam)
Mark
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I did it!!!!
I traded my car in. I got 23,300 for a trade in. That left me 6K upside down.
Under normal circumstances, there is NO WAY I would buy a car and take a 6K hit. (not including the JCW stage I kit and springs)
BUT, I get to keep my JCW aero kit and even with the 6K hit, I'm paying 60 bucks a month less and for 6 months less in time.
That MORE than makes up for the 6K loss plus I'm in a new JCW with zero miles.
The mods begin..... (hurry up Adam)
Mark
I traded my car in. I got 23,300 for a trade in. That left me 6K upside down.
Under normal circumstances, there is NO WAY I would buy a car and take a 6K hit. (not including the JCW stage I kit and springs)
BUT, I get to keep my JCW aero kit and even with the 6K hit, I'm paying 60 bucks a month less and for 6 months less in time.
That MORE than makes up for the 6K loss plus I'm in a new JCW with zero miles.
The mods begin..... (hurry up Adam)
Mark
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