R56 Do you think LSD is going away for 2010?
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The reason the JCW does not have it probably has to do with the JCW having a different, heavier-duty transmission. It would have required a new LSD, I suspect they don't make enough JCWs to warrant making a new LSD.
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Yes, indeed it is.
Per Motoringfile:
With the introduction of Electronic Differential Lock Control standard on all JCW cars and optional on the Cooper S, MINI has decided it’s now time to drop the old fashioned mechanical limited slip differential as as option for the 2010 model year (commencing in early September).
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/07/...010/#more-9780
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Per Motoringfile:
With the introduction of Electronic Differential Lock Control standard on all JCW cars and optional on the Cooper S, MINI has decided it’s now time to drop the old fashioned mechanical limited slip differential as as option for the 2010 model year (commencing in early September).
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/07/...010/#more-9780
What does everyone think about this?
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Yes, indeed it is.
Per Motoringfile:
With the introduction of Electronic Differential Lock Control standard on all JCW cars and optional on the Cooper S, MINI has decided it’s now time to drop the old fashioned mechanical limited slip differential as as option for the 2010 model year (commencing in early September).
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/07/...010/#more-9780
What does everyone think about this?
Per Motoringfile:
With the introduction of Electronic Differential Lock Control standard on all JCW cars and optional on the Cooper S, MINI has decided it’s now time to drop the old fashioned mechanical limited slip differential as as option for the 2010 model year (commencing in early September).
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/07/...010/#more-9780
What does everyone think about this?
Jim
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With the introduction of Electronic Differential Lock Control standard on all JCW cars and optional on the Cooper S, MINI has decided it’s now time to drop the old fashioned mechanical limited slip differential as as option for the 2010 model year (commencing in early September).
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/07/...010/#more-9780
What does everyone think about this?
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/07/...010/#more-9780
What does everyone think about this?
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Well this new electronic differntial is suppose to be lighter and work better but I am going to have to wait and see cause I feel like there is going to be a lot of problems. Maybe it will be the best thing since sliced bread. Ut it might be a failure like market garden so time will only say. But it will drop some weight out of the Mini which will be a good thing. But I think that it might be a good change in the Mini line.
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R53's with factory JCW options had mechanical LSD. The full factory R56 JCW Coupe introduced last year has had only the EDLC for its entire production run. The electronics use the brakes to balance wheelspin. For all the hand-wringing about it, it's pretty seamless in operation. I don't think the DTC is very intrusive in daily road driving, and when I autocrossed with EDLC only it worked fine. Driving ability aside, I was faster than all of the MCS's as I should have been. I've said it a million times but the biggest improvement you will see in handling and dynamics is to ditch the runflats for some high performance summer non-RF tires.
PS, I had a R53 MCS with the factory LSD so I am familiar with its feel.
PS, I had a R53 MCS with the factory LSD so I am familiar with its feel.
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Well this new electronic differntial is suppose to be lighter and work better but I am going to have to wait and see cause I feel like there is going to be a lot of problems. Maybe it will be the best thing since sliced bread. Ut it might be a failure like market garden so time will only say. But it will drop some weight out of the Mini which will be a good thing. But I think that it might be a good change in the Mini line.
Biggest problem with the e-diff is premature brake wear and potentially fade, if they get hot enough. For the street, the e-diff is perfectly fine. For competition (I'm an autocrosser) it's sketchy. In fact, before I found out the '10s are still available with the mechanical LSD, it was a deal breaker.
BTW, the weight drop will be negligible, as all cars still need a differential, and an LSD might acount for a couple extra ounces, but not more. The weight savings stuff is straight from the BMW spinmeisters.
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It's good enough to replace it for normal over-the-road duty, but for more demanding performance applications, it's not optimal. That's the M cars get the mechanical LSD. Again, if all you're going to do is drive on the street, you're good. If you autocross ro do track days, you could be in for considerably more frequent brake replacements.