R56 no delay wipers on a $27,600 mini?
#26
Before my MINI, I had a '98 VW GTI VR6. It had an intermittent wiper setting, but again, the wiping rate wasn't adjustable. Funny, because every other car we've owned recently has had adjustable intervals, usually via a thumbwheel on the wiper stalk, etc. Maybe it's a German thing.
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Last edited by Spridget; 11-19-2010 at 07:48 AM.
#27
Honestly, I am not sure. I just remember reading his story, him vs. the big automakers, and how even though he won in court over and over again, the automakers dragged out not paying him anything for years.
#28
Interesting, hate to hear stories like that. From a little googling it looks like patents expire after 20 years, but that's US. May be longer in Germany.
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Maybe I'm more tolerant than most, but the speed-sensitive intervals on my 04 seem just about perfect - at speed they wipe fairly often and at rest then wipe hardly at all. I drive other cars where the intervals are manually controlled and it always seems I'm fiddling with it in traffic. To me, having the intervals set automatically rather than manually seems more like a feature than a takeaway.
- Mark
- Mark
#34
Maybe I'm more tolerant than most, but the speed-sensitive intervals on my 04 seem just about perfect - at speed they wipe fairly often and at rest then wipe hardly at all. I drive other cars where the intervals are manually controlled and it always seems I'm fiddling with it in traffic. To me, having the intervals set automatically rather than manually seems more like a feature than a takeaway.
- Mark
- Mark
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I have Rain-X Wipers and they are awful, I find them to be very streaky. Maybe I will try these much loved PIAA wipers.
That said, geez, some of you are spoiled! Is wiper speed really that big of a deal? I find with the rain sensing setting it's fine in light rain, and if it's really pouring I click it up a notch and it keeps the windscreen clear, end of story.
That said, geez, some of you are spoiled! Is wiper speed really that big of a deal? I find with the rain sensing setting it's fine in light rain, and if it's really pouring I click it up a notch and it keeps the windscreen clear, end of story.
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#38
Maybe I'm more tolerant than most, but the speed-sensitive intervals on my 04 seem just about perfect - at speed they wipe fairly often and at rest then wipe hardly at all. I drive other cars where the intervals are manually controlled and it always seems I'm fiddling with it in traffic. To me, having the intervals set automatically rather than manually seems more like a feature than a takeaway.
- Mark
- Mark
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#40
I just want to clear this for the others. It's the RAINX that you apply to the windshield and not the washer fluid.. Make sure to follow the instructions carefully, otherwise you'll end up with a hazy windshield.
#41
You all are entitled to your opinion, but I find that having a range of delay settings allows me to find one that suits the driving conditions I'm in, and I appreciate that.
Here in Kansas we don't just get rain/no rain....we get mists of all strengths, fine rain, ice, snow, fog and a whole host of other moisture conditions, and it's never the same from one to the next.
Also, as the OP pointed out, this is a fairly expensive car - much cheaper cars have this feature along with those much more expensive - not having it on the car seems like an unforgivable omission, although it could just be a "BMW thing". Every other car I've owned since the late 70's has had this feature as standard....
And for many of us (certainly for me) the automatic wipers are not the answer - I had them on my 2003 MCS JCW and hated them. They came on way too often, or not at all. Sometimes they'd wipe at full speed when there was nothing on the windshield, and sometimes the window would be completely opaque and I'd have to manually engage them. Sorry, not for me TYVM....
Here in Kansas we don't just get rain/no rain....we get mists of all strengths, fine rain, ice, snow, fog and a whole host of other moisture conditions, and it's never the same from one to the next.
Also, as the OP pointed out, this is a fairly expensive car - much cheaper cars have this feature along with those much more expensive - not having it on the car seems like an unforgivable omission, although it could just be a "BMW thing". Every other car I've owned since the late 70's has had this feature as standard....
And for many of us (certainly for me) the automatic wipers are not the answer - I had them on my 2003 MCS JCW and hated them. They came on way too often, or not at all. Sometimes they'd wipe at full speed when there was nothing on the windshield, and sometimes the window would be completely opaque and I'd have to manually engage them. Sorry, not for me TYVM....
#42
Also, as the OP pointed out, this is a fairly expensive car - much cheaper cars have this feature along with those much more expensive - not having it on the car seems like an unforgivable omission, although it could just be a "BMW thing". Every other car I've owned since the late 70's has had this feature as standard....
#44
No, I'm not confused........
It's not just an inexpensive car thing............and if you're trying to say my expensive MINI has automatic wipers, well it doesn't.....so what the hell is your point?
My point is that since this isn't a cheap car, it should come with at least the minimal amount of equipment that the inexpensive cars do - and it doesn't.
I said you're entitled to your opinion - and so am I.
It's not just an inexpensive car thing............and if you're trying to say my expensive MINI has automatic wipers, well it doesn't.....so what the hell is your point?
My point is that since this isn't a cheap car, it should come with at least the minimal amount of equipment that the inexpensive cars do - and it doesn't.
I said you're entitled to your opinion - and so am I.
#45
Seems like common sense to check what features are standard on a car before buying. Especially for the amount of $ Mini's cost.
I would definitely be annoyed if I had not gotten auto-wipers thinking the intermittent function had some adjust-ability. Luckily the brochure and car manual explained that.
I would definitely be annoyed if I had not gotten auto-wipers thinking the intermittent function had some adjust-ability. Luckily the brochure and car manual explained that.
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#47
Intermittent wipers with only one setting would drive me nuts. When I was ordering my MINI, I reluctantly added auto wipers when I learned that the intermittent was non-adjustable. As it turns out, I really do like the auto wipers. However, I would still choose manual adjustable intermittent over paying extra for auto wipers.
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