R56 Anybody actually *like* run flat tires?
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Anybody actually *like* run flat tires?
I don't own a Mini (yet). Still in the research phase, but love sharp-handling cars, so the Mini is on the short list.
I'm wary of the RF tires though, since it seems like I've read nothing but negative things about their harsh ride, inability to be repaired, and expensive replacement costs.
So, does anybody stick with run flats on their Mini, or is it almost a given that people toss 'em and spend the money for traditional tires before too long?
And if you don't run RF's, and have a puncture, then what? I know sometimes you can make it to the tire shop, but otherwise are you calling Mini roadside assistance, or AAA, etc? And what do these guys do, repair your flat on the spot, or sell you a tire?
Final question - are any Minis still available from the factory with non RF's? Isn't the base MC hardtop with 15" wheels still running regular rubber?
I'm wary of the RF tires though, since it seems like I've read nothing but negative things about their harsh ride, inability to be repaired, and expensive replacement costs.
So, does anybody stick with run flats on their Mini, or is it almost a given that people toss 'em and spend the money for traditional tires before too long?
And if you don't run RF's, and have a puncture, then what? I know sometimes you can make it to the tire shop, but otherwise are you calling Mini roadside assistance, or AAA, etc? And what do these guys do, repair your flat on the spot, or sell you a tire?
Final question - are any Minis still available from the factory with non RF's? Isn't the base MC hardtop with 15" wheels still running regular rubber?
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I like runflats for two reasons:
One, I prefer the ride. I have had two sets of standard tires for my car (granted one was snows - probably doesn't count). I have a high mileage gen 1 with the basic "sport suspension" (not sport suspension plus). The runflats give me more road feel, which I like. Yeah, I can see how some might consider it "harsh," but if I wanted the smoothest ride, I'd be in a full frame, like a Crown Vic.
Two, I like the price. What? I mean I like the price on the barely used market, when someone with a new car changes over to standard. I bought my last set for $150 / four.
But (and this was my first set) I dislike the extra noise. It's similar to my pickup with 31"s.
One, I prefer the ride. I have had two sets of standard tires for my car (granted one was snows - probably doesn't count). I have a high mileage gen 1 with the basic "sport suspension" (not sport suspension plus). The runflats give me more road feel, which I like. Yeah, I can see how some might consider it "harsh," but if I wanted the smoothest ride, I'd be in a full frame, like a Crown Vic.
Two, I like the price. What? I mean I like the price on the barely used market, when someone with a new car changes over to standard. I bought my last set for $150 / four.
But (and this was my first set) I dislike the extra noise. It's similar to my pickup with 31"s.
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Judging from the number of them for sale on Craigslist, I would say No.
My impression is that they are as hard as rocks, with about the same handling ability.
BMW must fit them only to raise their corporate fuel economy numbers.
No jack, no spare, hard tire with reduced rolling resistance ='s better fuel economy.
You would think that a car marketed as sporty should not be saddled with such poor tires.
My impression is that they are as hard as rocks, with about the same handling ability.
BMW must fit them only to raise their corporate fuel economy numbers.
No jack, no spare, hard tire with reduced rolling resistance ='s better fuel economy.
You would think that a car marketed as sporty should not be saddled with such poor tires.
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I got suckered!
Just got my new Mini S hardtop not 10 days old. At the time of signing, they hit with a $1599.00 dollar charge for tire insurance. They said it was a good deal, and that I had to do it at the time of signing or BMW would not agree to it. Spoke with the finance guy yesterday and he said, if I wanted to get out of the deal it would not be a problem. So now what do I do?
I could drive it, and wait for the first issue and then go for all four tires. Change over to non run flats. Or, do it it now and avoid the inevitable horror story with run flats you hear. Many people who have the insurance tell you, that it has already paid for itself in sidewall bubbles and of course nails.
Then of course you hear that they paid $900 dollars for there policy. So I need to make a decision! Any suggestions? Thanks Jimmyg
I could drive it, and wait for the first issue and then go for all four tires. Change over to non run flats. Or, do it it now and avoid the inevitable horror story with run flats you hear. Many people who have the insurance tell you, that it has already paid for itself in sidewall bubbles and of course nails.
Then of course you hear that they paid $900 dollars for there policy. So I need to make a decision! Any suggestions? Thanks Jimmyg
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Just got my new Mini S hardtop not 10 days old. At the time of signing, they hit with a $1599.00 dollar charge for tire insurance. They said it was a good deal, and that I had to do it at the time of signing or BMW would not agree to it. Spoke with the finance guy yesterday and he said, if I wanted to get out of the deal it would not be a problem. So now what do I do?
I could drive it, and wait for the first issue and then go for all four tires. Change over to non run flats. Or, do it it now and avoid the inevitable horror story with run flats you hear. Many people who have the insurance tell you, that it has already paid for itself in sidewall bubbles and of course nails.
Then of course you hear that they paid $900 dollars for there policy. So I need to make a decision! Any suggestions? Thanks Jimmyg
I could drive it, and wait for the first issue and then go for all four tires. Change over to non run flats. Or, do it it now and avoid the inevitable horror story with run flats you hear. Many people who have the insurance tell you, that it has already paid for itself in sidewall bubbles and of course nails.
Then of course you hear that they paid $900 dollars for there policy. So I need to make a decision! Any suggestions? Thanks Jimmyg
You can buy new run flat takeoffs all day long on Craigslist for 50% off Tire Rack prices. If you like run flats, you can buy five sets of them for the price of the insurance.
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Run flats are decent everyday tires. They will give good performance for the everyday driver and the convenience of not having to stop in some dangerous location to change a tire.
I bought my Mini as as replacement for a Porsche Boxster. As such, I find the run flats and heavy stock wheels to be one of the biggest detractors to the Mini as a sports hardtop.
I bought my Mini as as replacement for a Porsche Boxster. As such, I find the run flats and heavy stock wheels to be one of the biggest detractors to the Mini as a sports hardtop.
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Good to know. But 15's aren't available on the 'S' model, correct? I haven't decided between base and S model, and I think the base Cooper would be great for my needs. First and foremost, I'm looking for a commuter. Round trip is only 25 miles, and I only drive about 10k miles/yr.
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Good to know. But 15's aren't available on the 'S' model, correct? I haven't decided between base and S model, and I think the base Cooper would be great for my needs. First and foremost, I'm looking for a commuter. Round trip is only 25 miles, and I only drive about 10k miles/yr.
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This is the third week with my MCS Clubman and I'm finally able to get the tire pressure tuned to the right feel. The ride is much better now then when I got the car from the dealer. They loaded with 38 psi and the ride was hard and not much traction.
Much better now but the road noise is still there but handling is very crisp as I can feel the response from the tires.
Much better now but the road noise is still there but handling is very crisp as I can feel the response from the tires.
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I bought some Pirelli p-zero 220 tread wear run flats off of tire rack a few weeks ago since they were on sale (cheaper than the p-zero nero 220 tw I had on before) so I got them. I honestly can't tell a difference on the street. it's exactly the same tire otherwise. They don't seem any louder or seem any worse going around corners. I'll use the old crappy 220 neros I had on before for track use and get a 180 compound after those are shot so I can use the runflats strickly for the street. i like 'em.
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Non RF's are also available in 16" on non S models. My car was originally equipped with black wheels and the dealer swapped out with another car for silver during the 6-7 months they had it. I told them when I bought the car I wanted the black wheels shown on their website and they (unknown to me) pulled them off of a non-S. I noticed later that they were not RF and I didn't mention it because I didn't want RF anyway. I just proved it to myself today when I got a puncture fixed for $10.
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I bought some Pirelli p-zero 220 tread wear run flats off of tire rack a few weeks ago since they were on sale (cheaper than the p-zero nero 220 tw I had on before) so I got them. I honestly can't tell a difference on the street. it's exactly the same tire otherwise. They don't seem any louder or seem any worse going around corners. I'll use the old crappy 220 neros I had on before for track use and get a 180 compound after those are shot so I can use the runflats strickly for the street. i like 'em.
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I think a lot of folks don't like the run flats simply because popular opinion seems to be to not like them. There are many, many, posts about folks taking them off their cars the day of purchase, without having driven Run Flats before.
I don't like or dislike them. I have Hankook V-12's ( Non RF) on for the summer, and Dunlop run flats for the winter on my wife's Mini.
If you elect to run the run flats you can cut the cost significantly if you purchase them off the Forum here, or CL when they appear, and not when you need them. I have 2 complete sets in my garage loft, not counting the winter run flats. One set was practically given to me.
You'd surprised at how cheaply complete wheel/tire packages are sold for.
Does it seem like owning a Mini turns a person into a tire/wheel collector.? I also have three sets of wheels . I've never done this with another vehicle in my life.
I don't like or dislike them. I have Hankook V-12's ( Non RF) on for the summer, and Dunlop run flats for the winter on my wife's Mini.
If you elect to run the run flats you can cut the cost significantly if you purchase them off the Forum here, or CL when they appear, and not when you need them. I have 2 complete sets in my garage loft, not counting the winter run flats. One set was practically given to me.
You'd surprised at how cheaply complete wheel/tire packages are sold for.
Does it seem like owning a Mini turns a person into a tire/wheel collector.? I also have three sets of wheels . I've never done this with another vehicle in my life.