R56 Looking at a 20"
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Looking at a 20"
I found some wheels that are "20/7.5" with a offset of 40. Will these rub or mess up the fender wells? Honest details and thoughts and if anyone has 19s or 20s can you post pics and how they handle? I'm not sure if I'll lower it but if I do I'll keep it to springs with a 1.5in drop.
#2
The largest tire available on a stock R56 is the 205/40/18 on the JCW. The smallest 20" tire available from Tire Rack's site is a 225/30/20. The 20" would be .8" larger in overall diameter and throw your speedometer off by 3.5%. A 225 width should be doable but I don't know if a 40 offset would be appropriate for the width (you'll have to do the research there, then make considerations for the extra inch of diameter).
Of course, even if you make it fit it's going to ride, handle and accelerate like crap (objectively) as well as look like crap (subjectively). Unsprung weight makes a fairly big difference in the listed objective factors, and the 20's are going to be quite heavy.
Of course, even if you make it fit it's going to ride, handle and accelerate like crap (objectively) as well as look like crap (subjectively). Unsprung weight makes a fairly big difference in the listed objective factors, and the 20's are going to be quite heavy.
#3
Just curious, why? Handling is pretty good and ride is rough enough with my 17's. I really don't think there is any performance advantage to be had going all the way to 20's, but I could certainly be wrong. Let's see what others say. I have no doubt we have folks that follow this forum running 20's.
#4
Ive been looking forged 3pcs wheels or the lighter end wheels and the offset of "40" was just something I seen and it was just that wheel.
What about 19" wheel? I like the bigger lip look and haven't seen alot of 18" wheels with a nice size extra lip and I won't do 20s if it really messes things up "wife wouldn't appreciate that" lol
The mini will be modded lightly, I promised it wouldn't be like our Yukon
What about 19" wheel? I like the bigger lip look and haven't seen alot of 18" wheels with a nice size extra lip and I won't do 20s if it really messes things up "wife wouldn't appreciate that" lol
The mini will be modded lightly, I promised it wouldn't be like our Yukon
#5
Well I plan on going with a lighter wheel to keep the weight side down to keep a little performance and I really like the bigger lip look. I haven't came across 18s with a nice size lip. I'd like to see pics if anyone has them and their honest thoughts on the ride and so on. I want to keep it simple "a little" but with a unique look.
I've looked at alot a brands from, "savini, asanti, iforged, sv28s, &swiss "ANDSWISS" list goes on and I want to go with a custom wheel so I get the right offset and lip I want.
I've looked at alot a brands from, "savini, asanti, iforged, sv28s, &swiss "ANDSWISS" list goes on and I want to go with a custom wheel so I get the right offset and lip I want.
#7
Why can't light and big still be in the same class? If you can get a wheel that's 18 or 17"s and light weight, why couldn't you get a 19 or 20" wheel that weights the same as a normal jcw 18 or 17" wheel?
It's like saying a person that's 6'6" can't weight the same as someone that's 6'0"!
I'm not talking a huge difference, like I want a wheel that weights like a 18" light weight wheel but I want it to be 24" including tire. That's out of the category!!!
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work!!! Back to the drawing board and research. I've came across alot of wheel sites that have a 16, 17, 18, 19 recommendation. So I'll most likely go with a 19" but I'm still doing research so I don't make a choice I'll regret.
It's like saying a person that's 6'6" can't weight the same as someone that's 6'0"!
I'm not talking a huge difference, like I want a wheel that weights like a 18" light weight wheel but I want it to be 24" including tire. That's out of the category!!!
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work!!! Back to the drawing board and research. I've came across alot of wheel sites that have a 16, 17, 18, 19 recommendation. So I'll most likely go with a 19" but I'm still doing research so I don't make a choice I'll regret.
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#8
Because no one makes a lightwieght 19 or 20 inch wheel that is why. If you want a wheel that weighs on average of 25lbs for a 19 or 20 inch then go for it. The only other ones out there that I would consider light(pretty much under 20 lbs for that size wheel) will cost you a ridiculous amount of money and don't come in 4x100. Its just not going to happen. Three categories where you only choose two, light. strong, cheap. Strong+cheap= not light, strong+light= not cheap, light+cheap=not strong.
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Those are 20" wheels right?
I found this and talk with the shop that did the install http://gwtmotoring.blogspot.com/2011...dition-on.html and the wheel "not what I want but I would like a five spoke style" and there's no rubbing and it's a "20/8 with a 42 offset" the tires are 225/30r20" but I think I'd rather keep it at 7.5 and not 8.
I like how it looks on the mc/MCS but I don't want it to look ghetto or something horrible. Or just tossing some wheels on my MCS and thinking its cool because I have 20" wheels. Not what I'm going for!!!
That red MCS doesn't look bad but I'm not a fan of chrome and that style. I'm very picky and know what I like and what I don't. My truck is tastefully done, not a eye sore by no means but that's because I took my time and really thought about what I like and don't like. It's not done yet but thousands later it's not bad looking.
I like having a lip to my wheel or even a conclave style.
Also I want to get enough info on every aspect before going forward. So might like the ride, some may not notice and so like the ride. So it's all about personal taste but if I feel it will be a not so goof investment then I won't go forward
I found this and talk with the shop that did the install http://gwtmotoring.blogspot.com/2011...dition-on.html and the wheel "not what I want but I would like a five spoke style" and there's no rubbing and it's a "20/8 with a 42 offset" the tires are 225/30r20" but I think I'd rather keep it at 7.5 and not 8.
I like how it looks on the mc/MCS but I don't want it to look ghetto or something horrible. Or just tossing some wheels on my MCS and thinking its cool because I have 20" wheels. Not what I'm going for!!!
That red MCS doesn't look bad but I'm not a fan of chrome and that style. I'm very picky and know what I like and what I don't. My truck is tastefully done, not a eye sore by no means but that's because I took my time and really thought about what I like and don't like. It's not done yet but thousands later it's not bad looking.
I like having a lip to my wheel or even a conclave style.
Also I want to get enough info on every aspect before going forward. So might like the ride, some may not notice and so like the ride. So it's all about personal taste but if I feel it will be a not so goof investment then I won't go forward
Last edited by Seang252; 06-28-2012 at 10:40 AM.
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Just curious, why? Handling is pretty good and ride is rough enough with my 17's. I really don't think there is any performance advantage to be had going all the way to 20's, but I could certainly be wrong. Let's see what others say. I have no doubt we have folks that follow this forum running 20's.
He wants to let everyone know that he is rollin' so hard. You know, lettin' people know that he's a big deal rollin' on 20s in his MINI Cooper. I do not think there is one person on NAM that has 20s on the MINI.
#14
It's not just the weight that's a problem, it's the fact that the sidewall is so damn thin. On a short travel suspension like the Mini, that's going to be extremely uncomfortable.
Everything about the car will be better with a 17 inch wheel, except if you prefer the look of a 20 inch wheel. 18 is too big IMO but at least doable.
Everything about the car will be better with a 17 inch wheel, except if you prefer the look of a 20 inch wheel. 18 is too big IMO but at least doable.
#15
I do??? Ummm sorry that's not the idea but you can say/think what you want. I guess I could say the samething about MC/MCS's that are pretty much rolling on the ground with tiny wheels. They might think they are hard. It's personal choice, not about how hard you are well maybe some feel they are but it's a mc/MCS, should you really think your hard???
#16
Lip is a function of offset, not diameter.
You're not going to find wheels that fit a MINI that have a particularly large "real" lip due to the offset. On an 8" wheel +35 is more or less flush on an R56 - to get a good amount of lip you need a lower offset than that. You might be able to find a set of wheels where the spokes curve inward a lot to show more rim around the hub, but it's not the same as a low offset wheel with a good sized lip - you don't get that overall concave shape.
I like a wheel with a nice lip, too... Unfortunately the MINI just wasn't designed to accommodate it.
Unless you want to look into aftermarket flares, I suppose...
You're not going to find wheels that fit a MINI that have a particularly large "real" lip due to the offset. On an 8" wheel +35 is more or less flush on an R56 - to get a good amount of lip you need a lower offset than that. You might be able to find a set of wheels where the spokes curve inward a lot to show more rim around the hub, but it's not the same as a low offset wheel with a good sized lip - you don't get that overall concave shape.
I like a wheel with a nice lip, too... Unfortunately the MINI just wasn't designed to accommodate it.
Unless you want to look into aftermarket flares, I suppose...
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It's not just the weight that's a problem, it's the fact that the sidewall is so damn thin. On a short travel suspension like the Mini, that's going to be extremely uncomfortable.
Everything about the car will be better with a 17 inch wheel, except if you prefer the look of a 20 inch wheel. 18 is too big IMO but at least doable.
Everything about the car will be better with a 17 inch wheel, except if you prefer the look of a 20 inch wheel. 18 is too big IMO but at least doable.
Last edited by Grovedale; 06-28-2012 at 11:31 AM.
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I found some wheels that are "20/7.5" with a offset of 40. Will these rub or mess up the fender wells? Honest details and thoughts and if anyone has 19s or 20s can you post pics and how they handle? I'm not sure if I'll lower it but if I do I'll keep it to springs with a 1.5in drop.
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Lol naaaa not my cup of tea!!! I think I'd rather go with the floored look then to do something horrible as a lifted suspension with 30s on my MCS!!! Or ride a skate board!
I've seen afew "star" like styles with the opened look that show off the breaks and calipers I like and if I don't find a 20" I like, they have 18s and 19s I can fall back on.
I've seen afew "star" like styles with the opened look that show off the breaks and calipers I like and if I don't find a 20" I like, they have 18s and 19s I can fall back on.
#21
There wheels out there that have a good amount of lip on them from 15s to 18s. Yes that picture above is of a MINI R56 with 20s. Way too high up and just looking dumb. ALso big wheels tend to wear things like wheel bearing and bushings out faster.
Like I said talk to Rally he will give you all kinds of advice on wheels and offsets. He is the wheel guru.
Those are 17x9s.
I hope you are ready to spend a butt load of money on what you want.
Like I said talk to Rally he will give you all kinds of advice on wheels and offsets. He is the wheel guru.
Those are 17x9s.
I hope you are ready to spend a butt load of money on what you want.
#23
Yeah, the talk seems to have morphed to harsh (they'd shake you if they could), but you now have two threads of more experienced miniacs trying to save you from yourself. Maybe you should just go ahead and do the 20" wheel/tire bit, including the 1.5" drop you want. Damn the torpedos; you can do this. No, I don't own a wheel straightening shop in Dallas.
#24
At the end of the day, we can all give our $.02 in, but it's your car. Only you can decide if you like it. Definitely want to consider the effect it's going to have on ride, tire/rim damage. I agree with the others here, that the car would look horribly out of proportion. I think the car looks perfect with 16-17" rims, but that's my worthless opinion.
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18" Enkei that were on the MINI when I bought her. I loved the look, especially the lip, but they were bent, and had to be replaced (Along with both front axles).
Went down to 17" Enkei EDR9 to give me a little extra sidewall for crappy Colorado roads.
I've since moved to Las Vegas with less weather and better roads, and I'd love to go back to 18". The rough ride is about the same, but the 18" gave me way better handling in the twisties. I'm sure the tires themselves had a lot to do with that.
I'm not sure how I'd like 20" on a MINI, but that's the beauty of owning a MINI. Everybody modifys their MINI, so no 2 look alike. If you want 20" and are willing to put up with whatever problems you might run into, More Power To You!!
Went down to 17" Enkei EDR9 to give me a little extra sidewall for crappy Colorado roads.
I've since moved to Las Vegas with less weather and better roads, and I'd love to go back to 18". The rough ride is about the same, but the 18" gave me way better handling in the twisties. I'm sure the tires themselves had a lot to do with that.
I'm not sure how I'd like 20" on a MINI, but that's the beauty of owning a MINI. Everybody modifys their MINI, so no 2 look alike. If you want 20" and are willing to put up with whatever problems you might run into, More Power To You!!