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Old 03-24-2013 | 02:43 PM
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Ebay Strut Brace

Does anyone with a R55/56/57/58/59 have this strut brace installed? If so where did you find it? I've looked at just about every MINI parts vendors in North American. I can only find it on Ebay UK. Which I really do not want to order from.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Mini-Coo...-/170920632546





 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 02:49 PM
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Can I ask why you are set on this one with all of the different braces available here by reputable companies?
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by XxThalakosxX
Can I ask why you are set on this one with all of the different braces available here by reputable companies?
I'm not die set on this one. I like how it doesn't have hinges from the bar to the mounting brackets.
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 03:08 PM
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.....just Bling in my opinion!
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 03:26 PM
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Maybe bling on our cars but the GP has one standard
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 03:43 PM
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So do a lot of performance cars.




Just a few.
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:33 PM
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Lol...my wifes highlander has one...nobody ever called THAT a performance car!!
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:38 PM
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Thats because you had a HiPo V6 in it. That thing was a beast. LMAO
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:39 PM
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The NM strut bars are 3 piece units, with a bolt in center brace. The one you have pictured sure looks unique, though.

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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:42 PM
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I understand it's obviously cheaper than an M7 or a Craven but not knowing the company I'd be afraid of catastrophic failure.
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:47 PM
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Check this out

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13641687013072 theres this place too heres some pics of the 1 they sell its pretty SIK!
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:48 PM
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Except....

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http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13641687013072 theres this place too heres some pics of the 1 they sell its pretty SIK!
I never looked into if they sell this for the R60....
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by XxThalakosxX
I understand it's obviously cheaper than an M7 or a Craven but not knowing the company I'd be afraid of catastrophic failure.
And if there's "catastrophic failure" of a strut brace, what do you think is going to happen? Complete breakdown of the engine bay?
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 06:58 PM
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Well if it snaps you can definitely get pieces of metal banging around in your engine bay.
 
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Old 03-24-2013 | 07:08 PM
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Do you know how much stress you would have to exert on the strut bar to break it? More then your panzy MINI can dish out. Yeah I said it. If you want an Ebay get one, who cares you won't break it.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 01:18 AM
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Well it says it's strong so it must be true. After all, they can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 06:38 AM
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Well it says it's strong so it must be true. After all, they can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true.

See so it must be true.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 07:18 AM
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I have the JCW Strut Brace and don't really notice much of a difference in handling. Most of the cars listed in Braminators post above benefit from the strut brace because they have long engine bays with front wheel suspensions located farther away from the bracing around the fire-wall. With the MINI, the suspension is located so close to the firewall, that it's likely that the strut brace is not providing any additional support.

Strut braces were very popular on R53's due to the mushrooming that they have on top of the suspension mounts, but that hasn't been an issue with the R56, so this is really more for bling.

Can't hurt to have though, only affects the wallet so to each his own.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by XxThalakosxX
Well it says it's strong so it must be true. After all, they can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true.
"Bonjour". Haha gotta love state farm
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 07:59 AM
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Nothing wrong with the JCW bar. I have a new one if any interest.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 08:43 AM
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Most of the cars listed in Braminators post above benefit from the strut brace because they have long engine bays with front wheel suspensions located farther away from the bracing around the fire-wall. With the MINI, the suspension is located so close to the firewall, that it's likely that the strut brace is not providing any additional support.
You might want to look at the pics again. They are much closer then they look. My father has the CTS V so I can measure how far away if you would like. But what it does is firm up the whole car, it adds rigidity to the shell, reducing flexing when you're driving hard. Put one on and see how your MINI does not have as many rattles.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Mini
Can't hurt to have though, only affects the wallet so to each his own.
So true!!!
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 09:48 AM
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Some of you might want to read up on what a strut brace supposedly do.

http://www.seriousmf.com/index.php/p...s-a-strut-work
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 09:51 AM
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Some of you might want to read up on what a strut brace supposedly do.
But what it does is firm up the whole car, it adds rigidity to the shell, reducing flexing when you're driving hard.

The terms "strut bar", "stress bar", and "strut brace" are all generally refer to the same kind of device, a bar mounted between the front strut towers. The purpose of this bar is to reduce the flex that these towers experience during hard cornering. Reducing the flex will keep the wheels in position and in the desired position on the road, allowing the suspension to work as engineered without the added factor of chassis flex changing camber and caster settings. This will help to improve traction on the turns, increasing turn-in response, and help to reduce understeer. However, unless you choose carefully you may end up with a bar that looks great but does not meet your legitimate performance objectives.
Many of these bars look sturdy, shiny, and just plain cool. However, looks have little to do with performance. To reduce the flex between struts the stress bar setup should be as rigid as possible. The bar should be designed to take horizontal pressure during a turn without flexing or losing rigidity. The bar should not bend, flex, or pivot at the point it is attached to the strut cap otherwise the towers can move freely as they did before:
By solidifying and isolating the struts in their original configuration, it allows the suspension components (stock or modified) to retain their geometry and to function as designed. Typically, steering will seem quicker and more responsive, but in reality, it is the suspension doing its job properly. Benefits are not limited to high performance driving. Most people find a strut bar improves low speed turn-in response as well. A final advantage is the structural longevity of the vehicle; by giving everything extra support, the chassis will retain that "like new" stiffness for a much longer period of time. In particular, convertible model owners will see noticeable decreases in cowl shake.
From driver school participants and autocrossers to the typical enthusiast, the strut bar has become a widely accepted solution to the annoying problems of chassis flex in modern production cars and professional race cars.
 
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Old 03-25-2013 | 10:09 AM
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What would be an example of one that is just bling and doesn't actually offer any performance benefit?

I ask because I picked one up for 100 bucks...might just be bling I think lol
 


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