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Half filled CEL and low boost?

Alright so i have a 2010 mcs with about 40k miles on it. I installed a forge motorsports BOV and a k&n intake and had no problems with the car at all. Recently I attempted to install a cnt racing catless downpipe and ended up putting the stock one back on because the cnt downpipe didnt fit properly. Now my car is throwing a half filled CEL at me and is running extremely low boost. I checked the OBD2 and there were no codes but the evaporative system monitor wasnt passing under emissions. There are no exhaust leaks and the o2 sensors are fine and the car has a brand new battery. Im not sure what the problem is because i have heard many different things. If anyone knows or has had a similar experience your feedback would be great, thanks!
 

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Check the bov. That's what happened when my BOV went out
 
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Check the bov. That's what happened when my BOV went out
Im not sure if the BOV went out because there is still a quiet blow off, just no way near the normal sound it made before
 
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The Forge valve may be getting stuck open, the grease they use is quite heavy and seems to dry up and cause the valve to stick open.

Find someone with a quality scan tool and have them read the codes. Manufacturer codes don't come up when scanned with a generic tool.
 
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Originally Posted by nkfry
The Forge valve may be getting stuck open, the grease they use is quite heavy and seems to dry up and cause the valve to stick open.

Find someone with a quality scan tool and have them read the codes. Manufacturer codes don't come up when scanned with a generic tool.
Thanks alot! I appreciate the feedback
 
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The light you're describing sounds like a reduced power indicator and you were in limp mode. If you think there is something wrong with the Forge unit give them a call. Otherwise, you'll definitely want to find out what codes are present in the system.
 
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The light you're describing sounds like a reduced power indicator and you were in limp mode. If you think there is something wrong with the Forge unit give them a call. Otherwise, you'll definitely want to find out what codes are present in the system.
Im not sure why my forge bov would already be having problems. Ive only had it on the car for like 3 and a half months. I just started having this problem ever since i tried replacing the downpipe
 
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Originally Posted by CooperH
Im not sure if the BOV went out because there is still a quiet blow off, just no way near the normal sound it made before

Get a good scan tool and see what comes up.
 
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Get a good scan tool and see what comes up.
Any specific brands that are good?
 
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Linked on my text above " Scan tool "

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My CEL randomly turned off when i was driving but the boost is still low
 
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Did you scan it ?
 
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Did you scan it ?
Yes and i found the codes.
 
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Nice , Our Schwaben unit pulled up the codes.

Code 2885 : https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...de-2885-a.html


code 2AD2 : Cat or a bad connection at the cat, https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-driving.html
 
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It looks like for P2885 it could be your DV stuck in the open position as noted above. I'd maybe take it off and inspect it just to be sure. Otherwise, I've seen a few instances point to the turbo as the issue. Check out this thread HERE and HERE.
 
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Originally Posted by PelicanParts.com
It looks like for P2885 it could be your DV stuck in the open position as noted above. I'd maybe take it off and inspect it just to be sure. Otherwise, I've seen a few instances point to the turbo as the issue. Check out this thread HERE and HERE.
No thats not it. I already took it off to look. I even re-lubed it. I checked all the vacuum lines and they are all fine. Im not exactly sure what it is now
 
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No thats not it. I already took it off to look. I even re-lubed it. I checked all the vacuum lines and they are all fine. Im not exactly sure what it is now
Maybe check out the pressure converter as posted HERE.
 
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If the DV is working as it is supposed to then chances are that it is the wastegate which is integral to the turbo.

All of the cars I've ever replaced the pressure converters on were due to the diaphragm tearing and sounding like a duck call when the car was shut down, never because of conversion failure. It is a simple solenoid, not much other than the diaphragm to fail.

Do you hear a slight rattle from the turbo area on startup? Most cars that have a worn wastegate have a rattle either at startup or constant rattle at idle.

The 2AD2 code won't cause limp mode issues, that is all due to the 2885 code.
 
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Originally Posted by nkfry
If the DV is working as it is supposed to then chances are that it is the wastegate which is integral to the turbo.

All of the cars I've ever replaced the pressure converters on were due to the diaphragm tearing and sounding like a duck call when the car was shut down, never because of conversion failure. It is a simple solenoid, not much other than the diaphragm to fail.

Do you hear a slight rattle from the turbo area on startup? Most cars that have a worn wastegate have a rattle either at startup or constant rattle at idle.

The 2AD2 code won't cause limp mode issues, that is all due to the 2885 code.
Yes!!! My car makes a duck call sounds and it does make a rattle sound too when i start it up
 
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If you do have mooing when powerng off :

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ering-off.html

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Yes!!! My car makes a duck call sounds and it does make a rattle sound too when i start it up
If you have the duck call sound then you need the wastegate solenoid replaced. You will also want to inspect the rubber vacuum lines to the solenoid, as the PCV from the manifold leaks oil over time and saturates the vacuum lines causing them to swell and lose fitment to the solenoid, which can and will also cause boost deviance.

Let us know if you need more help on the diagnostic, I just did this work on a car the dealer quoted a turbo on. From $3,800 to $137 and a car that had about 40 more horsepower on the butt dyno.

The rattle you hear, if it is from the turbo area is the wastegate. It'll progressively get worse and cause underboost issues at that point you'll need a turbo.

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Yes!!! My car makes a duck call sounds and it does make a rattle sound too when i start it up
Yep, posted above about the pressure converter here. Very good information again from this post HERE.
 
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Took my car to a local european shop and it turns out my turbo was going out. Luckily i got a brand new turbo for free under warantee!!
 
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Thanks for the update. Did you buy an extended aftersales warranty for the car when it was bought ?
 
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