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Originally Posted by crosby
I looked up my Vin and it is telling me my Engine is an N12
Are these Vin code sites reliable?
I am more than confused now?
I'm the second owner and the first owners told me they have never had the spark plugs changed. And the plugs that I pulled and looked at are 12ZR-6SP03
can't I just go back with the same plug?
Ah, yes. Thought it was an S (N14 turbo engine) and not a Base (N12 naturally aspirated). The base cooper, N12 engine use Beru 12 ZR-6 SP03 plugs HERE.
 
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Oh My Goodness, Thank You!
Do you have what Gap I should set it at?
Thanks again...
I'll sleep better tonight... hahahaha


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Ah, yes. Thought it was an S (N14 turbo engine) and not a Base (N12 naturally aspirated). The base cooper, N12 engine use Beru 12 ZR-6 SP03 plugs HERE.
 
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Oh My Goodness, Thank You!
Do you have what Gap I should set it at?
Thanks again...
I'll sleep better tonight... hahahaha
You're very welcome. Tightening torque: 20nm (14.5 lbs/ft) thread diameter/pitch M12 x 1.25 socket size 14mm, electrode gap 1.0mm, heat range 6. If you need anything else, let me know.
 
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Originally Posted by crosby
I looked up my Vin and it is telling me my Engine is an N12
Are these Vin code sites reliable?
I am more than confused now?
I'm the second owner and the first owners told me they have never had the spark plugs changed. And the plugs that I pulled and looked at are 12ZR-6SP03
can't I just go back with the same plug?
You can post the last 7 digits and I can confirm for you. Some bmw vin sites are kind or weird on things.

You can go with the stock plugs for the N12 Cooper : 12ZR6SP03

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2007-Cooper-R56-Base-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N12B16A/Engine/Ignition/

You can use the same socket tool.
 
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You can post the last 7 digits and I can confirm for you. Some bmw vin sites are kind or weird on things.

You can go with the stock plugs for the N12 Cooper : 12ZR6SP03

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2007-Cooper-R56-Base-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N12B16A/Engine/Ignition/

You can use the same socket tool.
 
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Yep its an N12 R56 MINI Cooper ( NON S ).
 
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Whoop-Whoop! Thanks!
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Yep its an N12 R56 MINI Cooper ( NON S ).
 
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I ordered my Spark Plugs 12ZR6SP03 and received 12ZR6SP2?
is there a difference? Are these better? Same?
I'm so confused?
 
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PM me with your order , looks like maybe MINI sent us the 9/2009+ plugs instead. Will take care of you.
 
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Hey ECSTunng, I'm sorry but I purchased it with Pelican.
I tried ordering from ECSTuning but the shipping cost was around 49.00 to ship it to California.
I thought it was a mistake and went to my other computer and it was the same.
 
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Originally Posted by crosby
I ordered my Spark Plugs 12ZR6SP03 and received 12ZR6SP2?
is there a difference? Are these better? Same?
I'm so confused?
Shoot me a PM with your order number and I will get this sorted out for you ASAP.
 
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Originally Posted by crosby
Hey ECSTunng, I'm sorry but I purchased it with Pelican.
I tried ordering from ECSTuning but the shipping cost was around 49.00 to ship it to California.
I thought it was a mistake and went to my other computer and it was the same.
If you order 200.00 or more we offer free shipping.
 
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NGK Laser Platinum Plug Spark Plugs 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG



Are these the correct plugs for a 2012 Cooper Hardtop base model?
 
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Thank you everyone for your tips and help.
My Mini is running much better!
Yippee!
 
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NGK Laser Platinum Plug Spark Plugs 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG



Are these the correct plugs for a 2012 Cooper Hardtop base model?
Bought a set for $37 using discount code "SIX10"

http://www.sixityauto.com/4-pc-4-x-n...p-kit-set.html

http://www.sixityauto.com/coupons?gc...FYomhgodC6sFuQ
 
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Originally Posted by 1004ron
NGK Laser Platinum Plug Spark Plugs 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG

Are these the correct plugs for a 2012 Cooper Hardtop base model?
Yes, 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG. Beru is the OEM supplier plug http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg1.htm#item0.

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Thank you everyone for your tips and help.
My Mini is running much better!
Yippee!
 
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Yes, 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG. Beru is the OEM supplier plug http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg1.htm#item0.



Are the 90223's incorrect for a 2012 Cooper S? That is the plug I bought for my car which is a 2012 S.
 
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Yes, 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG. Beru is the OEM supplier plug http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg1.htm#item0.



So are these incorrect for the 2012 S model? Or does the S use 90223 also???
 
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Anyone.........?
 
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So are these incorrect for the 2012 S model? Or does the S use 90223 also???
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Anyone.........?
The S uses the 95770 plugs, here's a link for you: NGK Spark Plugs

In stock and ready to ship.
 
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Thank you sir! Looks like that's the iridium plug, I should be able to change the I to a P in the part number on the box for the platinum plug.
 
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Changing your plugs isn't about only changing them when they are bad, or when the car starts to run poorly. It's part of good preventative maintenance practices. I can never understand why people wait until their car is broken before they decide to repair it. I have a 2002 Ford Explorer with 150K on it and it runs perfectly. I maintain it and make sure she has what she needs to keep on keepin' on. If I feel or hear something, even if it is slight, I remember that so if it happens again I can troubleshoot it.

Owners will find that if you do preventative maintenance like changing plugs, changing oil, air filters, oil filter and keep your tires at the correct pressures, your cars would last so much longer. And it will love you for it. Oh and don't even get me started on gas. You can't buy crap gas and expect your car to run fine no matter how well you maintain it. Run the highest octane and that is even betterer.

I have worked on more cars in my life than I can remember, and when I see a person's car that has not been cared for, I make sure they understand that they need to inspect and maintain their car. It isn't rocket science. It goes the same for pretty much any combustible engine. Maintain it and it will work. And I mean work much, much better.

And the comment I hear the most that is so absolutely ignorant is 'My plugs came pre-gapped'. It doesn't matter if the plugs came pre-gapped or not. Those plugs get knocked around and dropped and there is no guarantee those plugs have the same gap coming out of the box as they did going in. Any good mechanic would tell you that. As a technician, which isn't even in the same realm as a mechanic, wouldn't even think about installing plugs without a gap check. And yes, there is a huge difference between a mechanic and a technician. But I digress. My bad.

Also many spark plugs can be used on different vehicles, and those vehicles don't necessarily have the same gap. So good maintenance practice means that you check the gap on every spark plug. If you don't, well it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch girl. Yep, a Jackson 5 lyric. I've opened boxes of brand new plugs and have found some totally closed and others wider than the Grand Canyon. Plus it saves you a whole lot of time in troubleshooting if there is an issue later. If you gapped correctly then most likely that isn't the problem. Just make it easy on yourself.

OK, I know many will think I am standing on my soapbox and preaching where my preaching isn't wanted. Giving good advice is never the wrong thing to do. Especially when it comes to mechanics and having a reliable vehicle that you drive to work everyday. Sucks to be sitting on the side of the road in the rain or snow because one tire decided to split wide open when you let it get too low and it finally gave up.

I hope I didn't **** in anyone's Wheatie's, but stuff needs to be talked about. Happy Motoring to everyone.

P.S. I do not drive a Mini. My ex does, and I maintain it in everyway I can to make sure she is safe. Just because she is my ex doesn't make me want her car to break down...Much....

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Totally agree.
More than 60k miles on my MINI without any engine problem!
 
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DISREGARD THE BELOW! I found the second page of comments. Gonna grab some Bosch plugs (mentioned below) from the Pelican I think. Any final advice?

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Any resolution on this?
I have the same car apparently - R56 2007 Mini Hatch "Justa" N12

Had coils go bad at around 50k on a new motor (long story) and now a couple went out again within a year ... time for plugs

NGK website says all they make that fit are - NGK 90223 PLZKBR7B8DG
Stock specs (and quoted from a great article here) are - Beru 12ZR6SP03
Pelican Parts lists (above links) - Bosch ZQR8SI302 and a slightly different Beru 12ZR6SP2

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Pelican Parts shipped me Beru's but with a different part number on them.
After a few emails and phone calls Pelican said the Beru's they sent me were a newer type, same plug but newer. I can tell you my new Beru's have not made a difference in the way my car runs. I actually think it's idling a little worse and it starts a little worse. I haven't ran any diagnosis yet but it's getting to the point where I really need to get it looked at.

What I didn't like was just sending me something different from what I ordered and not notify me before hand.

I'm probably going to look at another brand and see if that helps as well...
If I find anything I'll post it here for sure.
 


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