R56 Stage 2 vs. 3
#1
Stage 2 vs. 3
Looking into getting a tune since the MINI dealership decided to misinform me about me warrenty and that I now have none. Anyways I digress. What tunes are out there, what mods if any do I need for them, what gains can be expected, is it worth it? I'm really trying to work my way towards it in buying the parts. I wasn't sure if I should get like a brand tune or get a Dino tune at a local shop. I would like one that has different maps that I can switch around. If the tunes are done properly is there any danger in doing them? I know getting more power out of the engine obviously puts more wear and tear but is it a significant amount?
#2
What's your budget and what do you plan on using the car for?
If you're just going to do street use stage 2 is almost more than enough. Plus that is mostly simple bolt on mods to do. Stage 3 is where you start getting into replacement performance clutch, meth injection, possibly a bigger turbo. Unless you're serious about your car and see yourself tracking it that may not be worth the money for you.
If you're just going to do street use stage 2 is almost more than enough. Plus that is mostly simple bolt on mods to do. Stage 3 is where you start getting into replacement performance clutch, meth injection, possibly a bigger turbo. Unless you're serious about your car and see yourself tracking it that may not be worth the money for you.
#3
What's your budget and what do you plan on using the car for?
If you're just going to do street use stage 2 is almost more than enough. Plus that is mostly simple bolt on mods to do. Stage 3 is where you start getting into replacement performance clutch, meth injection, possibly a bigger turbo. Unless you're serious about your car and see yourself tracking it that may not be worth the money for you.
If you're just going to do street use stage 2 is almost more than enough. Plus that is mostly simple bolt on mods to do. Stage 3 is where you start getting into replacement performance clutch, meth injection, possibly a bigger turbo. Unless you're serious about your car and see yourself tracking it that may not be worth the money for you.
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#5
Manic is definitely the most popular option for the R56. They have a map of dealers if you haven't checked that already.
IDK about other companies but Manic Stage 2 recommends FMIC, CAI, full exhaust. At the very least you need the exhaust but running more boost you want that front mount too. BOV isn't necessary. Just see how you're running on the stock diverter valve and get an upgraded one if you need it. If you want the BOV sound an intake increases turbo noise significantly.
#6
I'll have to look again where there is one. I believe when last time i looked there was one in Virginia and i live in NC so not impossible just a long drive especially on the way back testing out a fresh tune hoping that it works. By full exhaust i take it you mean from the turbo back or is cat back good enough? what do you recommend. Not trying to break the bank on a exhaust.
#7
AAHHHHHH there is one like 45 minutes from me WTF. I had no idea. I thought there was nothing like that around here. Thank you google you are my friend and you guys too for recommending this. I guess i'll start working on getting the requirements. this will be the last performance oriented mod for my car. What brands for the bolt ons do you guys recommend?
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#8
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If you have the N18 engine, as I do in my 2011 MCS, my fave performance mods so far have been the JB+, ALTA hot-side tube, Alta 19mm rear swaybar, Forge BOV, Exhaust resonator delete, eBay intercooler (wish I had the money for a Helix) and my PiperCross air filter. Oh, and the yellow PowerFlex insert. I did all of these myself, with the exception of the exh resonator delete. That cost me like 40 bucks at a local muffler shop.
If I were to spring for an ECM tune, I would go Manic. At that point, the level of tune will call out for needed mods along with the tune.
If I were to spring for an ECM tune, I would go Manic. At that point, the level of tune will call out for needed mods along with the tune.
#9
If you have the N18 engine, as I do in my 2011 MCS, my fave performance mods so far have been the JB+, ALTA hot-side tube, Alta 19mm rear swaybar, Forge BOV, Exhaust resonator delete, eBay intercooler (wish I had the money for a Helix) and my PiperCross air filter. Oh, and the yellow PowerFlex insert. I did all of these myself, with the exception of the exh resonator delete. That cost me like 40 bucks at a local muffler shop.
If I were to spring for an ECM tune, I would go Manic. At that point, the level of tune will call out for needed mods along with the tune.
If I were to spring for an ECM tune, I would go Manic. At that point, the level of tune will call out for needed mods along with the tune.
#10
Okay I actually have the JB+ as well. I feel like I should get a tune though as that devices make me a little nervous about running lean since it only adds more air to the engine. I've also been looking at the Mini madness 22mm rear sway bar. I just installed the lower motor mounts from power flex. I love it although going into first gear likes to vibrate the car for a second. I though about eBay intercooler. They are way cheaper and I've heard good things about them. How did you like the resonator delete? And could you feel any difference with the hot side boost tube?
#11
The JB+ has proven pretty safe to use as long as you follow the instructions for setting the dial correctly. You are correct that it adds more airflow, but it also adds the appropriate amount of fuel. When I tested it, it ran about 11.5 to 10.7 AFR on WOT which is ok. That being said, its always better to get a true tune though.
#13
Thanks for the input. How much was it to have the resonator delete done? Does it make it really loud or just a better loud. I don t want my car to sound like a 90's civic with the only mod being a fart box lol. I plan on doing a full exhaust since I'm working towards stage two. I was planning on doing wheels and rims next but that tune sounds so much more appealing that I might work towards that. I just want new rims before I run through these tire so I don't have to wait another 50,000 miles unless I just waste my tires.
#14
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Resonator delete cost me $40.00 at a local muffler shop that I do a lot of business with. Not "loud", but, yes, a better loud. More aggressive. Definitely nothing like a Civic with a fart-box. Way deeper tone. No raspy sound. I want a Borla system, but for now, this will have to do. If you don't like the sound, the resonator can be re-welded back into place.
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