R56 Is there a definitive answer about replacing the battery?
#1
Is there a definitive answer about replacing the battery?
I have a 2011 standard version Mini (bought new).
My original battery died yesterday. For what it's worth, it gave no physical warning (though upon inspection the indicator was yellow). I replaced it with an Interstate battery from Costco, Group H6(48) Fitment code 29 Ah 70 battery for $110. A larger battery, but the designated size and it fit fine.
I have read dozens of posts regarding replacement. My battery is now in and works fine. My question is about registering it and having to go to the dealer. I do not have IBS. Some posts say without IBS the battery doesn't need to be registered, others say all batteries. Everyone seems to know what they're talking about.
There is a post from Pelican saying you don't have to register batteries without IBS and then refers you to their tech article which states that all batteries have to be registered. I called my dealer and he says to come in and have it registered (what else would he say?). Sooooo....
Is there a definitive answer? Or maybe I should rephrase that. There are a lot of definitive answers already posted. Is there a definitive answer that we know to be correct? My inclination is not to bother going to the dealer. But I will if it is required.
My original battery died yesterday. For what it's worth, it gave no physical warning (though upon inspection the indicator was yellow). I replaced it with an Interstate battery from Costco, Group H6(48) Fitment code 29 Ah 70 battery for $110. A larger battery, but the designated size and it fit fine.
I have read dozens of posts regarding replacement. My battery is now in and works fine. My question is about registering it and having to go to the dealer. I do not have IBS. Some posts say without IBS the battery doesn't need to be registered, others say all batteries. Everyone seems to know what they're talking about.
There is a post from Pelican saying you don't have to register batteries without IBS and then refers you to their tech article which states that all batteries have to be registered. I called my dealer and he says to come in and have it registered (what else would he say?). Sooooo....
Is there a definitive answer? Or maybe I should rephrase that. There are a lot of definitive answers already posted. Is there a definitive answer that we know to be correct? My inclination is not to bother going to the dealer. But I will if it is required.
#2
Hello,
You can replace the battery and not register the battery but that the battery will have a shortened life than normal. What the system does is charge the battery more in the latter years of life so it extends the life. Its also constantly talks to the DME. When you register it its like a restart.
I have it on my R58, you will know you have it by the cable type on the terminal.
You can replace the battery and not register the battery but that the battery will have a shortened life than normal. What the system does is charge the battery more in the latter years of life so it extends the life. Its also constantly talks to the DME. When you register it its like a restart.
I have it on my R58, you will know you have it by the cable type on the terminal.
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No Reset Needed
I also have a 2011 and recently replaced my own battery. I do not have the extra connection for the battery minder. According to all of the research I did on both mini and bmw sites, you dont need to reset anything if you dont have the DME.
Another thing, after having some phantom check engine lights come on here and there, I'm considering purchasing my own scan tool. I'm not sure if Ill get one of the really nice ones or a $10 Amazon Blue tooth that works with a phone app. Im thinking they would allow you to reset the battery and some of the other bothersome functions..
Like you, as the car ages, I'm doing more maintenance on it myself and I plan to keep it for another few years... SINCE ITS FINALLY PAID FOR!
Another thing, after having some phantom check engine lights come on here and there, I'm considering purchasing my own scan tool. I'm not sure if Ill get one of the really nice ones or a $10 Amazon Blue tooth that works with a phone app. Im thinking they would allow you to reset the battery and some of the other bothersome functions..
Like you, as the car ages, I'm doing more maintenance on it myself and I plan to keep it for another few years... SINCE ITS FINALLY PAID FOR!
#5
Welcome,
Yea, if you dont have the IBS , no reset.
Yea, if you dont have the IBS , no reset.
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#6
PLEASE NOTE: Not all MINI R56 models come equipped with an AGM type battery. Not all R56 models come equipped with the IBS system. To determine if your R56 has this system you will need to look at the terminal end of the negative battery cable.
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#7
I read the Pelican article a couple of times before and after installing the battery. I understand what you're saying. What was confusing to me was that nowhere in the article did it say if you didn't have IBS, you didn't need to register the battery.
In the paragraph after the note it says...
Once your battery has been replaced, you will have to register the new battery with the vehicle's computer system.
And in the Fig 12 paragraph it says...
Once installed, you will have to use a BMW scan tool to register (red arrow) the battery... If the battery is not registered, the charge program will be incorrect, shortening battery life.
So maybe you could add somewhere that if you don't have IBS, you don't have to do anything beyond resetting the clock.
Thanks for the reply. Thanks for all your replies to the forum. A huge help.
In the paragraph after the note it says...
Once your battery has been replaced, you will have to register the new battery with the vehicle's computer system.
And in the Fig 12 paragraph it says...
Once installed, you will have to use a BMW scan tool to register (red arrow) the battery... If the battery is not registered, the charge program will be incorrect, shortening battery life.
So maybe you could add somewhere that if you don't have IBS, you don't have to do anything beyond resetting the clock.
Thanks for the reply. Thanks for all your replies to the forum. A huge help.
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I read the Pelican article a couple of times before and after installing the battery. I understand what you're saying. What was confusing to me was that nowhere in the article did it say if you didn't have IBS, you didn't need to register the battery.
In the paragraph after the note it says...
Once your battery has been replaced, you will have to register the new battery with the vehicle's computer system.
And in the Fig 12 paragraph it says...
Once installed, you will have to use a BMW scan tool to register (red arrow) the battery... If the battery is not registered, the charge program will be incorrect, shortening battery life.
So maybe you could add somewhere that if you don't have IBS, you don't have to do anything beyond resetting the clock.
Thanks for the reply. Thanks for all your replies to the forum. A huge help.
In the paragraph after the note it says...
Once your battery has been replaced, you will have to register the new battery with the vehicle's computer system.
And in the Fig 12 paragraph it says...
Once installed, you will have to use a BMW scan tool to register (red arrow) the battery... If the battery is not registered, the charge program will be incorrect, shortening battery life.
So maybe you could add somewhere that if you don't have IBS, you don't have to do anything beyond resetting the clock.
Thanks for the reply. Thanks for all your replies to the forum. A huge help.
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