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Old 07-05-2022, 03:25 PM
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My 2012 MCS is running hot

Installed an Ultragauge today and my engines temp hit 220F, checked booth my oil level and coolant level and they are fine, and I'm getting no codes on my OBDII scanner. I did a google search and it said my engine temp shouldn't go over 210F, any idea's why the high temp?
 
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Originally Posted by LouCypher
Installed an Ultragauge today and my engines temp hit 220F, checked booth my oil level and coolant level and they are fine, and I'm getting no codes on my OBDII scanner. I did a google search and it said my engine temp shouldn't go over 210F, any idea's why the high temp?
220 is normal, search here. Sport button on should run cooler on n18.
 
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220 is normal, search here. Sport button on should run cooler on n18.
Thanks for the info, I hit that temp with the sport button on, but at what temp should I be concerned about.
Also, what PSI should I see on the boost from my turbo when I jump on her,
 
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2009 mcs here

If you have a guage to monitor coolant temerature, I'd be alarmed of a tempatuer of > 230deF
 
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105°C (~221°F) is the factory target temperature for the thermostat control. As you drive, it will fluctuate ±5°F. Probably better not to monitor it, because these engine do run hotter - all in the name of efficiency.
 
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2009 mcs here

If you have a guage to monitor coolant temerature, I'd be alarmed of a tempatuer of > 230deF
Thanks for the info, it's always good to know when to start worrying
 
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Thanks for the info, it's always good to know when to start worrying
at 230-231 the fan should kick on and bring temps down to 215 or so.
 
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at 230-231 the fan should kick on and bring temps down to 215 or so.
Also, what PSI are you seeing in your boost on the turbo when you push the engine hard
 
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Also, what PSI are you seeing in your boost on the turbo when you push the engine hard
my 09 clubby with every mod on warm days will hit 14 lbs. 40 degrees and below I can hit 16lbs.
 
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Originally Posted by Jason Cornelius
my 09 clubby with every mod on warm days will hit 14 lbs. 40 degrees and below I can hit 16lbs.
That's weird, all I've done with my engine is a K&N cold air intake and I hit 18psi, and this in over 100 degree heat
 
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That's weird, all I've done with my engine is a K&N cold air intake and I hit 18psi
sounds like a stage 1 tune.
 
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Originally Posted by Jason Cornelius
sounds like a stage 1 tune.
Well I bought it three years ago from a dealership so I have no idea what the previous owner did to her. I can tell you this through observation, she was in very good shape because she was definitely garaged her whole life. Is there anyway to tell if she has a stage 1 tune without the electronics to do so.
Edit: If I do have stage 1 installed, what would you say my HP should be roughly, I can always set up my Ultragauge to read it
 

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The only real way to tell if you have an aftermarket tune is to check the code. My gut says you probably don’t because your coolant temp is still is in the stock range. Most, if not all, aftermarket tunes will reset the coolant targets to 185-190°F.

Boost targets are also not a thing on these engines. The ECU will shoot for a load or torque target, boost will follow to meet that target. There is a max boost, but that is also secondary.

Depending on your modifications, a “stage 1” tune will get you a little over 200hp at the wheels, slightly more than the factory JCW cars. A “stage 2” with a catless downpipe, free flowing exhaust, and open intake will get you about 225hp to the wheels.
 
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Originally Posted by njaremka
The only real way to tell if you have an aftermarket tune is to check the code. My gut says you probably don’t because your coolant temp is still is in the stock range. Most, if not all, aftermarket tunes will reset the coolant targets to 185-190°F.

Boost targets are also not a thing on these engines. The ECU will shoot for a load or torque target, boost will follow to meet that target. There is a max boost, but that is also secondary.

Depending on your modifications, a “stage 1” tune will get you a little over 200hp at the wheels, slightly more than the factory JCW cars. A “stage 2” with a catless downpipe, free flowing exhaust, and open intake will get you about 225hp to the wheels.
OK, thanks for some clarification on that
 
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