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Old 10-18-2022, 11:18 AM
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Strange noise when my JCW 2012 warm

Hi all,
I have the same noise with my JCW.
Do you have any idea what it could be?
https://youtu.be/Fkqlhs2Ri2I
 
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Old 10-19-2022, 10:29 AM
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It sounds normal to me. These were never the quietest engine. I hear the injectors and the vacuum pump in the video. If there is not a check engine light on and it runs ok. The oil level is good just drive it. I thought the same thing when I got mine.
 
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Old 10-19-2022, 04:36 PM
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I own an N14 but at minute 1:11 when you lift up the camera I hear something like metal tapping plastic, really fast. Or a vibration. Curious.

Put your hand over the vacuum pump and see if the noise changes...

 
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
I own an N14 but at minute 1:11 when you lift up the camera I hear something like metal tapping plastic, really fast. Or a vibration.
This noise is what I noticed, too. It goes on until the end of the video while at idle. The noise actually starts at 1:04 at a lower volume and is audible until the camera is lifted.

I noticed a similar (to the low volume) noise in my N16 a couple of weeks ago while driving: when cruising, the noise would appear at certain rpm if the accelerator was depressed lightly. If engine rpm increased, the noise was gone.

My first thought was also the timing chain or the timing chain guides. Around 6K miles ago I had checked whether the timing chain is lengthened and the tool indicated it was just at its limit. Hopefully I'll get a chance to check it again before the car will do another 3K to 4K miles (I'm currently on vacation with the car).
 
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Old 10-20-2022, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by giorgos
This noise is what I noticed, too. It goes on until the end of the video while at idle. The noise actually starts at 1:04 at a lower volume and is audible until the camera is lifted.

I noticed a similar (to the low volume) noise in my N16 a couple of weeks ago while driving: when cruising, the noise would appear at certain rpm if the accelerator was depressed lightly. If engine rpm increased, the noise was gone.

My first thought was also the timing chain or the timing chain guides. Around 6K miles ago I had checked whether the timing chain is lengthened and the tool indicated it was just at its limit. Hopefully I'll get a chance to check it again before the car will do another 3K to 4K miles (I'm currently on vacation with the car).
How many miles on the engine?
 
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Thanks for the comments. It is almost 60k.

My mechanic also said that it could be chain guides. However, I have an other guess, it could be coming from the hydraulic lifters. There are couple of videos in youtube. They have same kinds of noise.
 
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Old 10-20-2022, 08:03 AM
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60k...*****...that's nothing in Japanese motor terms. Its halfway to the grave for a Mini....ha! Fricking junk motors.

Can you isolate the noise to once side? Put a long screw driver to your ear and touch different parts of the motor.
 
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Sounds the same as this one.

 
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Old 10-20-2022, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by drrm123
Sounds the same as this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo7Jm2vP30A
at minute 0:36 I hear a noise...but my engine with 13k miles makes the same noise.

Then at 1:44 I hear a different noise like valve train or maybe that POS of vacuum pump.

Please tell me WTF his airbox is shaking like that? Thats creepy.....
 
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Originally Posted by drrm123
It sounds normal to me. These were never the quietest engine. I hear the injectors and the vacuum pump in the video. If there is not a check engine light on and it runs ok. The oil level is good just drive it. I thought the same thing when I got mine.
Do you hear the noise described in the above posts?
Regarding everything being fine if there is enough oil and not check engine light: I wouldn't trust these engines being fine based on your criteria. For example: (DO NOT) try pulling the release tab of the friction wheel and start the engine. The car will only notice something is wrong once the coolant has overheated (and report that but not a check engine light). And if the temp sensor is defective, the car will not report anything until it is too late.

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Sounds the same as this one.
Not to me. I can't hear the noise from the op in your (?) video.

Originally Posted by Lex2008
How many miles on the engine?
Mine has roughly 50k miles, most of which were driven on freeways.
 
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The bolts aren’t tighten on the air cleaner lid. Someone put the wrong screws on after slightly stripping the lower plastic air cleaner housing. And I haven’t been able to find a decent used one at a salvage yard yet. Bought the car at a auction for $1200.
 
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Old 10-21-2022, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by drrm123
The bolts aren’t tighten on the air cleaner lid. Someone put the wrong screws on after slightly stripping the lower plastic air cleaner housing. And I haven’t been able to find a decent used one at a salvage yard yet. Bought the car at a auction for $1200.

I just used some long zip ties to hold the lid on...but your entire air intake box is shaking. it has some rubber isolator things in the bottom you must be missing.
 
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I got the isolators already 1 was missing. Which I already put in when I reassembled the engine. I actually found a air cleaner this weekend. But saw on the one in the car that whoever put those silver screws in. Also put a nuts and bolts through the mass airflow sensor so I might also need another mass airflow sensor depending on how large they open the holes up. They did a hack job on the certain things. The heat shield was actually a old license plate. I put an original one back on yesterday.



 

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Reassembled engine?
 
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Old 10-27-2022, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Reassembled engine?
the engine had a misfire when I bought it. Which turned out to be a burned valve. Probably from not using premium gasoline.

 
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Old 10-27-2022, 12:21 PM
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Mine had a burned valve and always used 92/93 octane.
 
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