R56 After seeing pictures of the real thing, I'm bucking the trend and.....
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After seeing pictures of the real thing, I'm bucking the trend and.....
trying to come up with a way to justify trading my very low mileage 03 MC for an 07 MC. I like the way it looks, I like the new interior, and if it's accurate, the 51.2 highway mpg would be great. Some of the gas mileage increase is probably due to the new for the MC, six speed tranny. I've also heard regular gas will be recommended, which I hope is true.
Since it seems that many of the current MINI owners hate the 07, maybe I can get a good deal on a trade at a dealership with a bunch of unwanted 07's just setting around.
I hope so, I'm really looking forward to driving and checking out the new, new MINI.
Since it seems that many of the current MINI owners hate the 07, maybe I can get a good deal on a trade at a dealership with a bunch of unwanted 07's just setting around.
I hope so, I'm really looking forward to driving and checking out the new, new MINI.
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I'm w/ you, res!!! The more I look, the more I like. My only problem will be parting w/ my '03...I tried once w/ no success. Just couldn't bring myself to hand over the keys. Such a sentimental fool!!
Anyway, the new MINI looks good to me....another evolution....and the promise of better fuel efficiency certainly has caught my interest big time.
Anyway, the new MINI looks good to me....another evolution....and the promise of better fuel efficiency certainly has caught my interest big time.
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I like it and I don't blame you..... besides the first guy that turns up the boost and runs past all the 02-06 cars will start a trend..... I am too commited to my 02 financially...and I really love it.....to trade.... but when they announce the "traveler" I am pretty sure I am putting in an order...sell the Xterra...maybe
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Buy one because you want one! I wouldn't get too excited about the gas mileage as everything is based on European specs. They could be better or the same. Overall I don't really see them as a better car as time will bare that out, they're just different in some ways. Buy it and enjoy it! If its not to you taste once you have it, there will always be CPO Minis . Good luck on the purchase, I'm sure you'll enjoy the new car!
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Perhaps after 3 years with my 03 MC I'm just ready for a change, and I'm sure there are a few things about my 03 I prefer to the 07.
However, at a glance:
1. More power.
2. Better gas mileage.
3. Steering wheel telescopes as well as tilts.
4. Cool new keyless start button.
5. Deflectors to help keep back window clean.
6. More logical location for the power window switches.
7. Good chance of more comfortable seats.
8. New colors.
9. It appears that the muffler, at least on the MC, is a lot less of a visable can hanging down.
10. Back part of sunroof opens.
It looks great to me, and my prediction will be that this is a highly successful change, making the MINI more popular than ever.
Downside for me.
1. Price is bound to go up.
2. Realistically I need to keep my low mileage 03...unless the pre-07's are so popular, because the hatred of the 07's is so great, that I can sell my 03 for enough to cover the cost of an 07.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for.
However, at a glance:
1. More power.
2. Better gas mileage.
3. Steering wheel telescopes as well as tilts.
4. Cool new keyless start button.
5. Deflectors to help keep back window clean.
6. More logical location for the power window switches.
7. Good chance of more comfortable seats.
8. New colors.
9. It appears that the muffler, at least on the MC, is a lot less of a visable can hanging down.
10. Back part of sunroof opens.
It looks great to me, and my prediction will be that this is a highly successful change, making the MINI more popular than ever.
Downside for me.
1. Price is bound to go up.
2. Realistically I need to keep my low mileage 03...unless the pre-07's are so popular, because the hatred of the 07's is so great, that I can sell my 03 for enough to cover the cost of an 07.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for.
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Originally Posted by resmini
Since it seems that many of the current MINI owners hate the 07, maybe I can get a good deal on a trade at a dealership with a bunch of unwanted 07's just setting around.
say what you want about the enthusiast base, or whatever, but i have a feeling that, despite NAM, *rather* less than 2/3 of the MCS trade ins at your local dealership have 15% pulleys...
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I'm not so put off by the exterior now that I have seen those new pics. As to the interior, I have liked what I have been seeing all along.
The new engine will be the big change as I see it, but I'm not really interested until the traveler comes out. So by then any real problems should have surfaced.
If a traveler is not in my future, I'll get a trailer for Poco, my 03 Cooper, with 78k miles, and just be the one and only owner of him, as he still has less miles on him then any other car I have owned. I tend to own cars till they go to the big scrape yard in the sky.
Mark
The new engine will be the big change as I see it, but I'm not really interested until the traveler comes out. So by then any real problems should have surfaced.
If a traveler is not in my future, I'll get a trailer for Poco, my 03 Cooper, with 78k miles, and just be the one and only owner of him, as he still has less miles on him then any other car I have owned. I tend to own cars till they go to the big scrape yard in the sky.
Mark
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Count me in the R56 bandwagon. Just the thought of all 175 ft/lb torkies available to my twitchin right foot from barely above idle to 5500rpm--and a sustained 30 seconds of 193 ft/lb boost anywhere in that spectrum--makes me drool, man. I betcha a good 75% of the naysayers will flipflop once they experience that....
(then the market will be flooded with used R53s).
I'm already number 1 on the 07 S demo list at my local dealer when one arrives....
And the more I see the interior, the more I likey--just like the Rx8, we'll be able to change the colors of our gauge lighting. Wow.
Spidey is right: We be running circles around the 02s-06s, I might add perhaps even the JCWs (or at least the GP.) Hahaha
Plan: keep mileage on 05 S under 12K/year, keep it clean, no mods. Wait 'til '08 is my mantra.
(then the market will be flooded with used R53s).
I'm already number 1 on the 07 S demo list at my local dealer when one arrives....
And the more I see the interior, the more I likey--just like the Rx8, we'll be able to change the colors of our gauge lighting. Wow.
Spidey is right: We be running circles around the 02s-06s, I might add perhaps even the JCWs (or at least the GP.) Hahaha
Plan: keep mileage on 05 S under 12K/year, keep it clean, no mods. Wait 'til '08 is my mantra.
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Originally Posted by sequence
Count me in the R56 bandwagon. Just the thought of all 175 ft/lb torkies available to my twitchin right foot from barely above idle to 5500rpm--and a sustained 30 seconds of 193 ft/lb boost anywhere in that spectrum--makes me drool, man. I betcha a good 75% of the naysayers will flipflop once they experience that....
(then the market will be flooded with used R53s).
I'm already number 1 on the 07 S demo list at my local dealer when one arrives....
And the more I see the interior, the more I likey--just like the Rx8, we'll be able to change the colors of our gauge lighting. Wow.
Spidey is right: We be running circles around the 02s-06s, I might add perhaps even the JCWs (or at least the GP.) Hahaha
Plan: keep mileage on 05 S under 12K/year, keep it clean, no mods. Wait 'til '08 is my mantra.
(then the market will be flooded with used R53s).
I'm already number 1 on the 07 S demo list at my local dealer when one arrives....
And the more I see the interior, the more I likey--just like the Rx8, we'll be able to change the colors of our gauge lighting. Wow.
Spidey is right: We be running circles around the 02s-06s, I might add perhaps even the JCWs (or at least the GP.) Hahaha
Plan: keep mileage on 05 S under 12K/year, keep it clean, no mods. Wait 'til '08 is my mantra.
I have read on MINI2.com that the gauges faces won't change the lighting, it will be other interior lights. Pretty cool but not as cool as the gauge lighting change would have been.
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Originally Posted by mcarlo52
I think there are so many 02-06 MINI lovers who love "their" MINIs look, the market shouldn't be flooded with used models. I hope not, that could be seen as the MINI losing its luster. I have read on MINI2.com that the gauges faces won't change the lighting, it will be other interior lights. Pretty cool but not as cool as the gauge lighting change would have been.
And perhaps someone should confirm, if they can (Gabe?) about the interior lighting issue, I had heard and read on other threads that the gauge colors could be changed (one thing I liked about the RX8.) I mean, it doesn't make sense that the interior lighting could change and not the gauges, it's all on the same circuit. MINI2 has been wrong before with regards to reporting new features, so we'll see.... JB
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Originally Posted by sequence
I hope it doesn't get flooded, because that's one reason why our cars hold their residual/resale values so well--the relatively small percentage of used MINIs on the market at any given time, and how fast they are sold.
And perhaps someone should confirm, if they can (Gabe?) about the interior lighting issue, I had heard and read on other threads that the gauge colors could be changed (one thing I liked about the RX8.) I mean, it doesn't make sense that the interior lighting could change and not the gauges, it's all on the same circuit. MINI2 has been wrong before with regards to reporting new features, so we'll see.... JB
And perhaps someone should confirm, if they can (Gabe?) about the interior lighting issue, I had heard and read on other threads that the gauge colors could be changed (one thing I liked about the RX8.) I mean, it doesn't make sense that the interior lighting could change and not the gauges, it's all on the same circuit. MINI2 has been wrong before with regards to reporting new features, so we'll see.... JB
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The car will be a hoot!
But the original post was about a Cooper, not an S. The technology in the Cooper engine is impressive. Variable valve lift (the throttle body is only on the car for diagnostic purposes! It's wid open all the time), variable cam timing and direct injection are going to make it really efficient for the power level.
It's interesting that on the S, you get the turbo, but not the variable valve lift. I wonder why? Cost, or had they not yet worked out the control software?
Matt
It's interesting that on the S, you get the turbo, but not the variable valve lift. I wonder why? Cost, or had they not yet worked out the control software?
Matt
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Originally Posted by wrx_xb9r
The new stuff on the international MINI site has the gauges turning colors.
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Originally Posted by sequence
I didnt see the guages turning colors, the demo just showed the roof and door ambient lighting changing hues. It did say "instrument panel" was included so I'm assuming the gauges and controls as well? If so that's one very tres cool option there! I'm lovin this car more and more! Viva R56!
I am trying to decide to put my name on the list for a R56 S or JCW. I am also waiting on information the new STi to be released. Too many fun choices.
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Originally Posted by sequence
Spidey is right: We be running circles around the 02s-06s, I might add perhaps even the JCWs (or at least the GP.) Hahaha
Plan: keep mileage on 05 S under 12K/year, keep it clean, no mods. Wait 'til '08 is my mantra.
regards,
Red