R56 Brief Blurb from Evo on the '07
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Brief Blurb from Evo on the '07
Interesting reading. Good and bad news for everyone depending on just what it is you want out of your MINI.
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/20..._new_mini.html
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/20..._new_mini.html
#2
I found it interesting that "most people thought [the supercharger whine] was annoying" in the pre-'07 model MCS's.
Where did he get this bit of research? What qualifies as "most"?
I'd say there's a large group of us MINIacs that absolutely love the supercharger whine, and are doing everything in our power to produce more of that wonderful sound. Maybe it's just me, but with the cold air intakes and reduction pullies being put on a significant portion of MCS's out there, what does that say?
As you may have already guessed, I am in the group who love the whine. When I leave a stop light, or take a corner at 5000 RPMs, other people around me know I've got a supercharged hot hatch. People turn and look, and I like it!
Where did he get this bit of research? What qualifies as "most"?
I'd say there's a large group of us MINIacs that absolutely love the supercharger whine, and are doing everything in our power to produce more of that wonderful sound. Maybe it's just me, but with the cold air intakes and reduction pullies being put on a significant portion of MCS's out there, what does that say?
As you may have already guessed, I am in the group who love the whine. When I leave a stop light, or take a corner at 5000 RPMs, other people around me know I've got a supercharged hot hatch. People turn and look, and I like it!
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Originally Posted by rjmann
Interesting reading. Good and bad news for everyone depending on just what it is you want out of your MINI.
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/20..._new_mini.html
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/20..._new_mini.html
Hate them hard-to-close pop-ups.
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Originally Posted by Tri3
Doesn't seem like a very good write-up to me. I seen others that make the new mini seem much cooler. This one sort of turns you off to the new one.
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Originally Posted by mistro
"... Floor the throttle at 2000rpm and things are torpid for a couple of seconds."
Others did not report such problems but there could be many reasons for it. It could have a bit of lag that is perceived by some and not others. It could have been a glitch, the engine too cold, the engine too hot or some other software override limiting power for a moment. As he said, he won't really know until launch.
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Boy, kind of flys in the face of several of the other sneak peak articles out there... everyong else seems to be loving the new car's performance and handling. As pointed out, there seems to be some cutting comments in there against the old and new models. I guess it just goes to show that you can't believe everything you read. We'll just have to see how the '07 actually drives when it shows up.
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Originally Posted by jonnieoh
I found it interesting that "most people thought [the supercharger whine] was annoying" in the pre-'07 model MCS's.
Where did he get this bit of research? What qualifies as "most"?
I'd say there's a large group of us MINIacs that absolutely love the supercharger whine, and are doing everything in our power to produce more of that wonderful sound. Maybe it's just me, but with the cold air intakes and reduction pullies being put on a significant portion of MCS's out there, what does that say?
As you may have already guessed, I am in the group who love the whine. When I leave a stop light, or take a corner at 5000 RPMs, other people around me know I've got a supercharged hot hatch. People turn and look, and I like it!
Where did he get this bit of research? What qualifies as "most"?
I'd say there's a large group of us MINIacs that absolutely love the supercharger whine, and are doing everything in our power to produce more of that wonderful sound. Maybe it's just me, but with the cold air intakes and reduction pullies being put on a significant portion of MCS's out there, what does that say?
As you may have already guessed, I am in the group who love the whine. When I leave a stop light, or take a corner at 5000 RPMs, other people around me know I've got a supercharged hot hatch. People turn and look, and I like it!
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Originally Posted by fjork_duf
Yeah I really hope this car handles as well as the old Cooper S. I'm hoping the new -07 will also be a decent autox car as the R53 is.
i dont know if its just my imagination, but doesnt the new car look alot taller than the current one?
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Originally Posted by kyriian
i dont know if its just my imagination, but doesnt the new car look alot taller than the current one?
One thing that the car designers don't seem to consider in many of the newer cars is what about keeping the windows large enough for folks to crawl out of after an accident? Some of the tiny little windows I'm seeing on cars bug me! :impatient
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#16
Originally Posted by Gromit801
There is still going to be throttle lag with the 07 Mini, which is why I jumped on getting an 06. Turbo's just really aren't optimal for autocross. Plus they will create more heat under the bonnet. Last thing I need out west.
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Originally Posted by inomis
A couple of seconds? I doubt there has ever been a production car that had that kind of lag. I think he exaggerated a bit for effect.
Others did not report such problems but there could be many reasons for it. It could have a bit of lag that is perceived by some and not others. It could have been a glitch, the engine too cold, the engine too hot or some other software override limiting power for a moment. As he said, he won't really know until launch.
Others did not report such problems but there could be many reasons for it. It could have a bit of lag that is perceived by some and not others. It could have been a glitch, the engine too cold, the engine too hot or some other software override limiting power for a moment. As he said, he won't really know until launch.
They went through all six gears in under 11 seconds
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height/beltline
Originally Posted by MINIclo
It does look taller. I think it is because the beltline is higher, and the windows are smaller.
One thing that the car designers don't seem to consider in many of the newer cars is what about keeping the windows large enough for folks to crawl out of after an accident? Some of the tiny little windows I'm seeing on cars bug me! :impatient
One thing that the car designers don't seem to consider in many of the newer cars is what about keeping the windows large enough for folks to crawl out of after an accident? Some of the tiny little windows I'm seeing on cars bug me! :impatient
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I too would find it incredibly difficult to leave my supercharger whine behind for a turbo. With tuning and a faster pulley it produces sounds that are truly inspiring. It pulls hard and even across the band. No lag.....at all. I'll often turn the radio off, lower the driver's window and listen to it's song. The sound it makes in third gear when given even the slightest bit of throttle....is the best.
For new buyers who enter the market after dealers stop taking orders for '06... the changes won't likely make any difference. But, it's a very interesting choice for those who are caught up in it right now.
Having had the experience of owning a first year Mini and now owning a last year model......I'll stick with the latter for now. It's likely that one day I'll have another last year model, so here's to the second generation New Mini!
For new buyers who enter the market after dealers stop taking orders for '06... the changes won't likely make any difference. But, it's a very interesting choice for those who are caught up in it right now.
Having had the experience of owning a first year Mini and now owning a last year model......I'll stick with the latter for now. It's likely that one day I'll have another last year model, so here's to the second generation New Mini!
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