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Old 10-22-2006, 06:39 AM
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Then I would think that as long as the two pictures are taken from the same height and angle, as in having the B pillars in line, the pictures could be resized so that the wheels overlay each other. We would then get an accurate overlay comparsion.
And we would, but the problem is finding those two pictures.

BTW, you'd need to include focal length and distance from the lens as well. You'd be surprised what a difference this makes.

The two here are a slight bit different, but close enough for casual analysis.

The problem comes when trying to claim that the front is longer and the rear is longer based on these pictures when the specs don't bear that out. The same specs that say they're the same wheelbase say the new one is 2.4" longer. So for every bit it's longer in the front, there's that much out of that 2.4" that you can't apply to the back.

The fact that the overlay gives the appearance that there's more than 2.4" of difference is actually proof that the overlay isn't perfect and the photos are a bit off.

To see what I mean, try doing this to two R53's, ensuring one is a professional photo and one is an owner photo you've enlarged (relatively speaking), and try to line them up only by their wheels. You'll find all sorts of things that won't overlay right.

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Originally Posted by erickvonzipper
Then I would think that as long as the two pictures are taken from the same height and angle, as in having the B pillars in line, the pictures could be resized so that the wheels overlay each other. We would then get an accurate overlay comparsion.
Yes - the trick is to find the right two pictures!

I adjusted the image to give equal extra length at the front and the back as we know the car has grown by 3 inches and there is at least one reference to there being 1.5" more at the front. This may be a more accurate... comparison:
 
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I adjusted the image to give equal extra length at the front and the back as we know the car has grown by 3 inches and there is at least one reference to there being 1.5" more at the front. This may be a more accurate... comparison:
Much, much, much closer!

Again, look at the very fist post/pic, as it's the best representation of what BMW is at least saying about the car's change in dimentions: NO CHANGE IN THE REAR... 2.4 INCHES OF LEANGTH ADDED UP FRONT. Try lining up the rear bumpers. Also getting the rooflines to match might be more accurate, too (since the new car's roof is actually LOWER).
 
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:11 AM
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There must be some growth in the back as the car is 3" longer. How about this...
 
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Originally Posted by FLKeith
Here is a photgraphic comparison. I superimposed two images and lined up the wheels. The areas where the car has grown are easy to see. There is also a slight change in the shape of the door.
That is kind of a cool color.

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There must be some growth in the back as the car is 3" longer. How about this...
If it is more like 2.5", then it's still a tad bit off. Your last photo looks more like 5"-6" total to me....4" up front and 2" in back.
 
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OK. I am not sure if 2.5 or 1.5 at the front is right so I used the rulers in Photoshop to give just over 2" extra at the front and an inch at the back. I think this is it
This view shows just how small the changes are
 
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:00 PM
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But the antenna is in the wrong place!!!! Just kidding...nice job!

According to MINI, R56 is 2.36" (60mm) longer....ya might need to shave a tad bit more off the length somewhere. FWIW, R56 is one silly millimeter shorter, too (R50=1408mm, R56=1407mm according to what I can find).
 
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Originally Posted by FLKeith
I think this is it
This view shows just how small the changes are
Closer still. Most accurate yet, I believe.
 
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Originally Posted by FLKeith
I think this is it
This view shows just how small the changes are
Top shelf work! I appreciate the time and effort you put into this!
 
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