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Old 04-27-2020, 06:16 AM
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Transmission mount replcement

Has anyone ever replaced a transmission mount on an R56 or R57? (see link below for part) I took my 2012 R57 to the dealer to get the fuel pump replaced and they mentioned my engine and transmission mounts were shot. I have found guides on how to replace the engine mounts but nothing on the trans mount. Can anyone offer any advice on how this is done? I hope to get the car on jack stands next weekend.

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I just did this last week, it really was not a difficult job at all. You'll need to place the car in front end service mode. After that it is pretty straight forward. The only real issue I ran into was working around and through the DME to get to the bolts underneath of it. Definitely disconnect the battery and remove the DME to avoid damaging it. My passenger side (engine) mount was totally floppy and way worse than the transmission mount. I would recommend replacing both mounts. Some of the bolts and the nuts on the mounts should be replaced.

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Originally Posted by scotty_r56s
I just did this last week, it really was not a difficult job at all. You'll need to place the car in front end service mode. After that it is pretty straight forward. The only real issue I ran into was working around and through the DME to get to the bolts underneath of it. Definitely disconnect the battery and remove the DME to avoid damaging it. My passenger side (engine) mount was totally floppy and way worse than the transmission mount. I would recommend replacing both mounts. Some of the bolts and the nuts on the mounts should be replaced.

I ordered the following from FCP Euro:
07119906050 x2
22116793713 x4
07119906051 x1
07119906187 x1
07119904575 x4
22116793735 x1

The hardware was around $50 shipped and arrived within a couple of days.
Thanks so much for all the info, extremely helpful! Honestly I am not even sure if mine needs to be replaced, it was what the dealer recommended (Also wanted ($1,000 for the replacement), but that may be suggestive selling, I have 86,000 miles on my mini and it seems to ride great. Any thoughts? I hate to replace parts that are in good condition. Thanks again.
 
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Originally Posted by scotty_r56s
I just did this last week, it really was not a difficult job at all. You'll need to place the car in front end service mode. After that it is pretty straight forward. The only real issue I ran into was working around and through the DME to get to the bolts underneath of it. Definitely disconnect the battery and remove the DME to avoid damaging it. My passenger side (engine) mount was totally floppy and way worse than the transmission mount. I would recommend replacing both mounts. Some of the bolts and the nuts on the mounts should be replaced.

I ordered the following from FCP Euro:
07119906050 x2
22116793713 x4
07119906051 x1
07119906187 x1
07119904575 x4
22116793735 x1

The hardware was around $50 shipped and arrived within a couple of days.
Thanks so much for all the info, I am not even sure mine need to be replaced, she seems to ride great. The replacement was just suggested by the dealer (maybe it was suggestive selling as it was $1,000). My r57 has around 86,000 miles, your thoughts on if it needs to be replaced? I hate to replace parts that are in working condition. Thanks for all the support.
 
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This was my passenger side mount. Totally gone lol. From what I understand, these should be replaced around 100K. Mine had 105k on it, but I drive it like I stole it and have a lot of other suspension mods that could have contributed to the failure. If you have the time and money, you should consider doing it DIY. It will certainly refresh the front end and make the car feel new again. Loose mounts cause excessive engine/gearbox movement and can cause all sorts of other issues. For me, it eventually caused my gearbox to not hold 6th gear at high RPM. Replacing the shifter box/bushings and eventually, the gearbox mount fixed this issue about 95% of the time. But I'll still need a new gearbox and it's probably because I didn't recognize that the mount was bad early on.
 
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Thanks for all the info, sounds like it won't hurt to change the parts. Time, yes I have plenty of it with this damn quarantining.
 
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i have pulled these engines several times with trannys and i dont think you need to put the car in service mode...I just serviced my transmission replacing the internal filter and I did have to unbolt the trans mount...i took out the 3 bolts and lifted the engine to do my work. I believe i could have finish removing the mount if i wanted it. you do have to remove the ecu and unbolt the fuse box...then remove the mount which holds them.
 
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Service mode makes it easier to access the passenger side mount. In my opinion this is one of those things that should be replaced in tandem.
 
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Originally Posted by scotty_r56s
Service mode makes it easier to access the passenger side mount. In my opinion this is one of those things that should be replaced in tandem.

I have replaced several timing chains in the r56 and part of the step is to remove the passenger side upper motor mount. floor jack to lift the engine and then you can can go to town removing all the stuff to get to the motor mount. Very doable without service mode but ya cannot knock the extra room when working on these engine bays. everything is tight.
 
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your thoughts on if the engine and transmission mount need to be replaced? This was my brake torque check
 
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did you check the lower mount. That one directly effects the roll of the engine when revving it


 
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the plan is to jack her up this weekend and check that mount.
 
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your thoughts on if the engine and transmission mount need to be replaced? This was my brake torque check

That not right at all. Definitely check the lower mount for obvious tears. Depending on your mileage, all three mounts may be ready for replacement. If you remove the radiator support and the brackets that secure the mounts to the engine you can at least check them to see it they feel too loose or if the passengers side mount has fluid leaking from it. Just make sure you support the engine with a jack (and a wood block) and only insecure one mount at a time.
 
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That not right at all. Definitely check the lower mount for obvious tears. Depending on your mileage, all three mounts may be ready for replacement. If you remove the radiator support and the brackets that secure the mounts to the engine you can at least check them to see it they feel too loose or if the passengers side mount has fluid leaking from it. Just make sure you support the engine with a jack (and a wood block) and only insecure one mount at a time.
Going to replace all 3, good excuse to buy a new Dewalt impact wrench.

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Going to replace all 3, good excuse to buy a new Dewalt impact wrench.

Thanks again for everyone's input
buy the Milwaukee....i use to have the dewalt and i had terrible luck being able to remove the higher torqued down bolts. like lug nuts. With the dewalt i could not remove any lug nuts off the mini or the truck...I feel i have a chance with the Milwaukee. I have a complete 20v dewalt tool assortment and the impact was the only one i got rid of cuz it could not do what i wanted it to do.
 
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Going to replace all 3, good excuse to buy a new Dewalt impact wrench.

Thanks again for everyone's input
Hell yeah. Good Luck!


 
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Or go bigger dog and break crap
 
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I almost made this mistake and bought the dewallt that has 700ft-lbs of torque
 
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I have yet to find something it won’t do, good luck with whatever you choose. The only thing that really matters is that you are doing this yourself. Have fun!
 
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I found out real quick when i first got it. I tried using it on several projects and it just didn't have enough oomph....i walked inside and listed on fleabay and got rid of it. When i got the Milwaukee I found out it will almost do what my IR air will remove...big dif...
 
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Originally Posted by hotairgypsy
I have replaced several timing chains in the r56 and part of the step is to remove the passenger side upper motor mount. floor jack to lift the engine and then you can can go to town removing all the stuff to get to the motor mount. Very doable without service mode but ya cannot knock the extra room when working on these engine bays. everything is tight.
The passenger side engine support is underneath the intake charge pipe on the N14 and N18. The only way to get to it is to put the car into front end service mode, or disconnect the charge pipe at the intercooler and the intake, and remove it (in which case you've done nearly as much work as just putting it in service mode and had to work in a really cramped space to deal with the charge pipe). The OP has an N18, so I'm pretty sure his options are limited to what I stated above. From what you said, it sounds like you are talking about the naturally aspirated motors rather than the turbocharged motors. If you have some other way of getting to the passenger side support, I'd love to learn about it.
 

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The passenger side engine support is underneath the intake charge pipe on the N14 and N18. The only way to get to it is to put the car into front end service mode, or disconnect the charge pipe at the intercooler and the intake, and remove it (in which case you've done nearly as much work as just putting it in service mode and had to work in a really cramped space to deal with the charge pipe). The OP has an N18, so I'm pretty sure his options are limited to what I stated above. From what you said, it sounds like you are talking about the naturally aspirated motors rather than the turbocharged motors. If you have some other way of getting to the passenger side support, I'd love to learn about it.

once you remove the upper support and the charge pipe then you have plenty of room...then support engine under the car...then get to removing all the stuff touching the mount including the mount...charge pipe not that bad...change out an alternator is a different animal...i just did it in a countryman and wow that was a challenge without service mode...you had to remove a lot of stuff to make that happen


 
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Man thanks for all the info guys, I’m following this mini service procedure. It is somewhat different and maybe it’s the turbo charger intercooler mentioned above that’s throwing me off, but there is a pipe right above above the motor mount. Can I remove this with out causing any problems?

https://www.bmwrepairguide.com/mini-...er-all-models/





 
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Man thanks for all the info guys, I’m following this mini service procedure. It is somewhat different and maybe it’s the turbo charger intercooler mentioned above that’s throwing me off, but there is a pipe right above above the motor mount. Can I remove this with out causing any problems?

https://www.bmwrepairguide.com/mini-...er-all-models/


That's the charge pipe. You can disconnect it right there at that hose clamp and it will be fine. Once you remove the radiator support bracket and slide the front end into service mode, you will be able to move the pipe to the side to get at the bolts for the support bracket.
 


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