R58 Insulation under hood
#102
-Steven
#105
#106
5/23/12 Dealer Reply
Hi guys,
I sent what info. I had on the "factory stripes/no insulation" to my MA this am. He was kind enough to reply "Hello Steven,
Ok, I really am confused by this now as well. If they were to go with all S and JCW models with the sport stripes, someone is really sleeping at the wheel. We have the hood insulation in stock now. Jim our parts manager tested the fit on a S Coupe we have that has factory installed sport stripes, but no insulation. It does fit, although it does not have an opening for the air scoop. (looks like cutting an opening is as easy as following the imprint in the insulation). I wanted to let you know that if you would like to get the insulation, it is available. As far as to why it does or does not have the insulation from the factory… I think if I ask 6 people, I will get 5 different answers! I will keep you posted if anything other information comes up!"
I will try and follow up tomorrow and see if I can get actual part numbers, for those who may want to order.
-Steven
I sent what info. I had on the "factory stripes/no insulation" to my MA this am. He was kind enough to reply "Hello Steven,
Ok, I really am confused by this now as well. If they were to go with all S and JCW models with the sport stripes, someone is really sleeping at the wheel. We have the hood insulation in stock now. Jim our parts manager tested the fit on a S Coupe we have that has factory installed sport stripes, but no insulation. It does fit, although it does not have an opening for the air scoop. (looks like cutting an opening is as easy as following the imprint in the insulation). I wanted to let you know that if you would like to get the insulation, it is available. As far as to why it does or does not have the insulation from the factory… I think if I ask 6 people, I will get 5 different answers! I will keep you posted if anything other information comes up!"
I will try and follow up tomorrow and see if I can get actual part numbers, for those who may want to order.
-Steven
#108
#109
Hood Insulation Installed
Hi gang-
My dealer got the hood insulation in, so I made an appointment and had them install it. When we looked at it together, I was surprised at the placement of the metallic heat shield. I thought I would see it over the turbo, however, as you can see, it sits across the back above the intake. I drove the Roadster for about 20 min. and stopped to check for hot spots with my hand. Strangely, the metallic shield above the intake is a really hot area. Checking the hood on the outside, nearly cool to touch...really happy about that , no hot spots anywhere. As you can see, the insulation covers nearly all the hood surface. I'm debating on whether to open the area that would vent to the scoop. I'll run this for a while and get a feel for it. Also, it was 87 degrees here today and I didn't notice the temp. gauge running any hotter at all. Nor did the fan seem to be running any more when I shut it off after a long drive. I was wondering about trapped heat.
Here are the part numbers for what we installed:
51 48 7 266 543 Heat Insulation (1)
51 48 1 915 964 Expanding Rivet (11)
-Steven
My dealer got the hood insulation in, so I made an appointment and had them install it. When we looked at it together, I was surprised at the placement of the metallic heat shield. I thought I would see it over the turbo, however, as you can see, it sits across the back above the intake. I drove the Roadster for about 20 min. and stopped to check for hot spots with my hand. Strangely, the metallic shield above the intake is a really hot area. Checking the hood on the outside, nearly cool to touch...really happy about that , no hot spots anywhere. As you can see, the insulation covers nearly all the hood surface. I'm debating on whether to open the area that would vent to the scoop. I'll run this for a while and get a feel for it. Also, it was 87 degrees here today and I didn't notice the temp. gauge running any hotter at all. Nor did the fan seem to be running any more when I shut it off after a long drive. I was wondering about trapped heat.
Here are the part numbers for what we installed:
51 48 7 266 543 Heat Insulation (1)
51 48 1 915 964 Expanding Rivet (11)
-Steven
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I did not get the insulation either......so can this be ordered and installed at home or does the service center need to be involved? I am over two hours away (and a time zone change) from my dealer so it wold be real handy if it can be done at home. Would you mind Steven giving me an estimate of cost?
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MsBrit
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MsBrit
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#113
I agree that this insulation should have come on the car, also I shouldn't have to pay for it, but I want to protect my hood. So for now I want the insulation ASAP. So it will cost me a few bucks now, and hopefully Mini will come through with a recall, in the meantime the hood is protected.
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I did ask for a discount and they gave me one, although I would rather not say how much out of respect for the dealer.
I did not get the insulation either......so can this be ordered and installed at home or does the service center need to be involved? I am over two hours away (and a time zone change) from my dealer so it wold be real handy if it can be done at home. Would you mind Steven giving me an estimate of cost?
Thanks
MsBrit
Thanks
MsBrit
-Steven
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My son says that with Jeeps, the hood insulation is associated with either comfort or sound packages, it is more of a sound deadening thing than a heat shield. Which would line up with an early post about what those parts were called. So, if you guys post your packages or sound systems, you might solve your mystery.
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My son says that with Jeeps, the hood insulation is associated with either comfort or sound packages, it is more of a sound deadening thing than a heat shield. Which would line up with an early post about what those parts were called. So, if you guys post your packages or sound systems, you might solve your mystery.
-Steven
#121
BlueToy.
Yes, I bought that same heat insulation/shiled as I was concerned when Pigeon 'lime' was poached on my bonnet before I had chance to clean it off!
I was loaned a MINI ONE diesel when the dealer was trying to fix my N18 MCS cooling problems and the shiny bit is situated above where the turbo is located; high at the back of the engine in the diesel ONE. There's a similar piece of black insulator with raised metallic surface on the bulkhead protecting from the hot rear of the turbo, too.
It fits the MCS + keeps the bonnet wonderfully cool, but the lack of air holes means it wasn't designed for any MCS (as we know it, Jim). I've taken mine off as I'm about to tackle the dealer who's had two unsuccessful attempts to fix my almost-constant engine cooling fan (here in the UK!) and I know they'll try to bul**1t me that the extra-insulation's causing it!
It didn't raise or affect my engine temp (108C/226F) but then, nor has the cooling fan...
Yes, I bought that same heat insulation/shiled as I was concerned when Pigeon 'lime' was poached on my bonnet before I had chance to clean it off!
I was loaned a MINI ONE diesel when the dealer was trying to fix my N18 MCS cooling problems and the shiny bit is situated above where the turbo is located; high at the back of the engine in the diesel ONE. There's a similar piece of black insulator with raised metallic surface on the bulkhead protecting from the hot rear of the turbo, too.
It fits the MCS + keeps the bonnet wonderfully cool, but the lack of air holes means it wasn't designed for any MCS (as we know it, Jim). I've taken mine off as I'm about to tackle the dealer who's had two unsuccessful attempts to fix my almost-constant engine cooling fan (here in the UK!) and I know they'll try to bul**1t me that the extra-insulation's causing it!
It didn't raise or affect my engine temp (108C/226F) but then, nor has the cooling fan...
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BlueToy.
Yes, I bought that same heat insulation/shiled as I was concerned when Pigeon 'lime' was poached on my bonnet before I had chance to clean it off!
I was loaned a MINI ONE diesel when the dealer was trying to fix my N18 MCS cooling problems and the shiny bit is situated above where the turbo is located; high at the back of the engine in the diesel ONE. There's a similar piece of black insulator with raised metallic surface on the bulkhead protecting from the hot rear of the turbo, too.
It fits the MCS + keeps the bonnet wonderfully cool, but the lack of air holes means it wasn't designed for any MCS (as we know it, Jim). I've taken mine off as I'm about to tackle the dealer who's had two unsuccessful attempts to fix my almost-constant engine cooling fan (here in the UK!) and I know they'll try to bul**1t me that the extra-insulation's causing it!
It didn't raise or affect my engine temp (108C/226F) but then, nor has the cooling fan...
Yes, I bought that same heat insulation/shiled as I was concerned when Pigeon 'lime' was poached on my bonnet before I had chance to clean it off!
I was loaned a MINI ONE diesel when the dealer was trying to fix my N18 MCS cooling problems and the shiny bit is situated above where the turbo is located; high at the back of the engine in the diesel ONE. There's a similar piece of black insulator with raised metallic surface on the bulkhead protecting from the hot rear of the turbo, too.
It fits the MCS + keeps the bonnet wonderfully cool, but the lack of air holes means it wasn't designed for any MCS (as we know it, Jim). I've taken mine off as I'm about to tackle the dealer who's had two unsuccessful attempts to fix my almost-constant engine cooling fan (here in the UK!) and I know they'll try to bul**1t me that the extra-insulation's causing it!
It didn't raise or affect my engine temp (108C/226F) but then, nor has the cooling fan...
Good luck getting your 'S' cooling fan sorted.
-Steven
#124
Thanks BlueToy.
Go to a dealer + look under the bonnet of a ONE D. In the middle at the back where our air filter is (but smaller + lower) is the turbo that's why the silver reflective part of the insulation is where it is; to protect the paintwork at the back of the bonnet, in between the water jets.
Go to a dealer + look under the bonnet of a ONE D. In the middle at the back where our air filter is (but smaller + lower) is the turbo that's why the silver reflective part of the insulation is where it is; to protect the paintwork at the back of the bonnet, in between the water jets.
#125
I decided to send my MA an email and link to this topic, to see if there has been and talk at the dealership on this topic.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nder-hood.html
Neal,
*I just wanted to bring this to your attention, I know your a great activist for the MINI owner, and just wondering if there has been an chatter at Classic about this issue. People are saying contact your MA. I figured I would just send out an email.*
Hope you had a great holiday weekend
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https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nder-hood.html
Neal,
*I just wanted to bring this to your attention, I know your a great activist for the MINI owner, and just wondering if there has been an chatter at Classic about this issue. People are saying contact your MA. I figured I would just send out an email.*
Hope you had a great holiday weekend
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