Drivetrain ECU Tune - Best Mod Yet? Yup!
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ECU Tune - Best Mod Yet? Yup!
Thanks Solar10 for what you told me about your Countryman, and I'll repeat those words. "The ECU Tuning was the Best Mod Yet", and I must agree.
After the recommendation from Solar10 and getting a chance to drive his All4 with the Tune I was sold. I'll have to start a whole new thread about the guys who Tuned the ECU but I will say they went the extra distance for me the customer.
OK, my impressions are this. Holy Sheit!!! I'm only 40 miles in to the ECU ?adaptation? and the difference is like night and day. I always have sport mode on and now between 3500 and 5000 there is an extreme increase in power. After looking at a dyno on the website it's safe to say that another 30-40Hp gain plus almost double the tq. has really happened. If this tune is done right you'll notice a huge difference! Now I know why Solar10 loves his strut bar so much!! I'm really looking forward to the ECU re-learning my Countryman's full potential and showing me what my CM was built do do. Here's why these guys are the best.... http://ecutuninggroup.com/live-tuning
Oh, and by the way, if you're in SoCal these guys rock for sure! Farzaan what up!? Thanks.
After the recommendation from Solar10 and getting a chance to drive his All4 with the Tune I was sold. I'll have to start a whole new thread about the guys who Tuned the ECU but I will say they went the extra distance for me the customer.
OK, my impressions are this. Holy Sheit!!! I'm only 40 miles in to the ECU ?adaptation? and the difference is like night and day. I always have sport mode on and now between 3500 and 5000 there is an extreme increase in power. After looking at a dyno on the website it's safe to say that another 30-40Hp gain plus almost double the tq. has really happened. If this tune is done right you'll notice a huge difference! Now I know why Solar10 loves his strut bar so much!! I'm really looking forward to the ECU re-learning my Countryman's full potential and showing me what my CM was built do do. Here's why these guys are the best.... http://ecutuninggroup.com/live-tuning
Oh, and by the way, if you're in SoCal these guys rock for sure! Farzaan what up!? Thanks.
Last edited by 1bigpea; 06-02-2012 at 12:06 AM. Reason: info
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At 4250 its in a hard turbo pull....doesnt drop power til 6k ish
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Awesome! Glad you're liking it as much as I have been enjoying my tune. 133 to the 241 on-ramp, the big looping merge... I hit that at 90 and "animal" stays flat and controlled. Woohoo!!
Regarding dynos on these smaller HP engines...I'll say it again, you can get Dyno-drunk if you aren't careful. Drive, man. If it's what you want when you're behind the wheel, and it feels good, what else could you ask for? If you have the money to throw at a dyno, go for it. In the mornings and evenings, I have a full strong pull through 5500 to 6k or so.
I will say that I feel a small power decrease at higher RPM on hotter days. But I'm still running the stock FMIC. A bigger IC will certainly help, now that it's getting warmer out.
Regarding dynos on these smaller HP engines...I'll say it again, you can get Dyno-drunk if you aren't careful. Drive, man. If it's what you want when you're behind the wheel, and it feels good, what else could you ask for? If you have the money to throw at a dyno, go for it. In the mornings and evenings, I have a full strong pull through 5500 to 6k or so.
I will say that I feel a small power decrease at higher RPM on hotter days. But I'm still running the stock FMIC. A bigger IC will certainly help, now that it's getting warmer out.
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Had my car tuned... Can only say that it is necessary to do so... The car was underpowered from the factory and with the tune it makes the ALL4 properly powered and way more fun to drive!
Also, my tune was done at PAW in Miami, if anyone lives near there I recommend them. Great guys and I even drove down from Connecticut at the time because they were the only ones tuning these cars. I was the first ALL4 to have a tune
Kyle
Also, my tune was done at PAW in Miami, if anyone lives near there I recommend them. Great guys and I even drove down from Connecticut at the time because they were the only ones tuning these cars. I was the first ALL4 to have a tune
Kyle
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is everyone paying the List $595 or is there a discount, or additional Install time? That price is more than fair for the amount of difference it makes. It's like a new car with an option the dealer could never match.
A pin is physically removed from the ECU? The whole ECU is removed and reprogrammed, first the most recent software is uploaded and then "tuned"
a flash is reversible, removing pins will def void a warranty..Correct, the guys at ECU Tuning will take care of any reversals and remaps
A pin is physically removed from the ECU? The whole ECU is removed and reprogrammed, first the most recent software is uploaded and then "tuned"
a flash is reversible, removing pins will def void a warranty..Correct, the guys at ECU Tuning will take care of any reversals and remaps
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It's really noticeable how under powered it was before. Amazing difference.
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I wasnt saying the price was expensive, just asking if the List Price was what dealers were charging. Manufacturer List & Dealer Retail are quite different.
As for installation, it's not always included in the list price. It can vary by shop if its not included.
I know many tuners who offer discounts on Tunes/flashes (GIAC.APR.Unitronic, etc)
'show/sale' pricing is typically $100 less. They often market it as - $50 tune, $50 off install, or
Free install + 10% off.
The price is very fare, especially considering the few tuners w/ a R60 tune.
As for installation, it's not always included in the list price. It can vary by shop if its not included.
I know many tuners who offer discounts on Tunes/flashes (GIAC.APR.Unitronic, etc)
'show/sale' pricing is typically $100 less. They often market it as - $50 tune, $50 off install, or
Free install + 10% off.
The price is very fare, especially considering the few tuners w/ a R60 tune.
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I wasnt saying the price was expensive, just asking if the List Price was what dealers were charging. Manufacturer List & Dealer Retail are quite different.
As for installation, it's not always included in the list price. It can vary by shop if its not included.
I know many tuners who offer discounts on Tunes/flashes (GIAC.APR.Unitronic, etc)
'show/sale' pricing is typically $100 less. They often market it as - $50 tune, $50 off install, or
Free install + 10% off.
The price is very fare, especially considering the few tuners w/ a R60 tune.
As for installation, it's not always included in the list price. It can vary by shop if its not included.
I know many tuners who offer discounts on Tunes/flashes (GIAC.APR.Unitronic, etc)
'show/sale' pricing is typically $100 less. They often market it as - $50 tune, $50 off install, or
Free install + 10% off.
The price is very fare, especially considering the few tuners w/ a R60 tune.
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Well...If I would drive "normally" I would get a bit better gas mileage than before. However, I'm still in the "honeymoon phase" and have been flooring it quite a bit and motoring in a spirited way! Also, I've let quite a few friends drive it and they tend to do the same. I'm sure I'll get back to "normal" driving eventually and i'll average back around 24.0 - 26.0, but with the ECU Tune it's just so different and a lot of fun to drive.
So, to answer your question I was averaging 24.3 - 24.0 before the tune. I'm now averaging 23.7, and hoping i've hit the MPG bottom.
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I've been averaging around 19mpg around town with my ECU tune... But for the kind of driving that I'm doing, I'm very pleased... A lot of full throttle acceleration and we have an abundance of twisty back roads in New Canaan, that may make me drive pretty... let's just say, briskly.
If you're wondering , on the highway I can still get over 30 if I'm careful
Kyle
If you're wondering , on the highway I can still get over 30 if I'm careful
Kyle
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I see you're in SD, these guys did my ECU Tune and they cover SD. Their service rocks.
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If you're looking for an upgraded intercooler look at Forge Motorsport.
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Nice, thanks for the info..Hows the install on them?
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Posted this in the "Countryman CAI questions" thread, but thought I would re-post it here in hopes of drawing some insight from those who have, or are considering, an ECU tune:
So here's the dilemma, gents: I am planning to head up north in the near future and get an ECU tune. I'd like to have my bolt on drivetrain mods (intercooler, exhaust) in place before I do.
I was hoping to go with the DoS CAI, but it looks like that won't be available for a very long time and therefore it won't be onboard when I get my ECU tune.
So the dilemma:
Do I continue to hold out for the DoS, in which case the question is whether I can effectively "simulate" the increased airflow of the DoS for purposes of the tune by using a K&N drop in filter in the factory air box?
OR
Do I give up on the DoS and just go with something like the NM intake and call it good?
Thoughts?
I was hoping to go with the DoS CAI, but it looks like that won't be available for a very long time and therefore it won't be onboard when I get my ECU tune.
So the dilemma:
Do I continue to hold out for the DoS, in which case the question is whether I can effectively "simulate" the increased airflow of the DoS for purposes of the tune by using a K&N drop in filter in the factory air box?
OR
Do I give up on the DoS and just go with something like the NM intake and call it good?
Thoughts?
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I'd say, keep the panel & 'swiss cheese' the air box.
drill a bunch of 3/4-1" holes in the bottom & back side.
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Not sure how I feel about drilling into the stock air box!
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My response from the other thread....
My thought and what I've been told aligns, is that the ECU is always "learning" so you would be fine. Plus you're talking CAT back exhaust right? Your ECU will adjust with the increase/decrease with air and the MAF no matter what. I put a AFE Filter in the Countryman after my ECU tune with no difference I'm sure. (except for sound)
Go with an AFE Dry Filter instead of a K&N. My .02
I'm in OC if you want to check it out...
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My response from the other thread....
My thought and what I've been told aligns, is that the ECU is always "learning" so you would be fine. Plus you're talking CAT back exhaust right? Your ECU will adjust with the increase/decrease with air and the MAF no matter what. I put a AFE Filter in the Countryman after my ECU tune with no difference I'm sure. (except for sound)
Go with an AFE Dry Filter instead of a K&N. My .02
I'm in OC if you want to check it out...
My thought and what I've been told aligns, is that the ECU is always "learning" so you would be fine. Plus you're talking CAT back exhaust right? Your ECU will adjust with the increase/decrease with air and the MAF no matter what. I put a AFE Filter in the Countryman after my ECU tune with no difference I'm sure. (except for sound)
Go with an AFE Dry Filter instead of a K&N. My .02
I'm in OC if you want to check it out...