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Old 07-04-2018 | 03:30 PM
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My 2013 came with a name tag. The first time she got serviced, the MA asked for her name. It's kind of a thing. And no, you do not need to be a master tech to work on a MINI.

Lighten up, Francis and quit being such a dickbag.
 

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Old 07-04-2018 | 04:17 PM
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Sorry MINI techs are not master techs, they are trained monkeys, one trick ponies.
They read from the manual on procedures based on complaints.
Can not think independently regarding any diagnosis.

Ive spoken to a few, and cant believe what comes out of their mouths.




Now about cars with names?

1999 Aston Martin DB7: Mary
1962 Aston Martin DB1: Barbara
1999 Bentley Arnage: Lindsey
1999 Bentley Azure: Laura
1964 Bentley Continental: Alma
1959 Cadillac El Dorado: Madeline
1958 Cadillac El Dorado Brougham: Patricia
1999 Cadillac Escalade: Carol
2000 Cadillac El Dorado STS: Daniela
1957 Chevrolet Bel Air Convertible: Stefanie
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28: Erin
1953 Chevrolet Corvette: Pamela
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Big Block: Stacey
2000 Ford F350 4x4 modified pick-up: Anne
1971 DeTomaso Pantera: Kate
1969 Dodge Daytona: Vanessa
1998 Dodge Viper Coupe GTS: Denise
1995 Ferrari 355 B: Diane
1997 Ferrari 355 F1: Iris
1967 Ferrari 265 GTB4: Nadine
1999 Ferrari 550 Maranello: Angelina
1987 Ferrari Testarosa: Rose
1956 Ford T-Bird: Susan
2000 GMC Yukon: Megan
1999 HumVee 2-Door Pickup: Tracy
1999 Infiniti Q45: Rachel
1994 Jaguar XJ 220: Bernadene
1999 Jaguar XK8 Coupe: Deborah
1990 Lamborghini LM SUV: Gina
1999 Lexus LS 400: Hillary
1999 Lincoln Navigator: Kimberley
1957 Mercedes Benz 300 SL/Gullwing: Dorothy
1999 Mercedes Benz CL 500: Donna
1999 Mercedes Benz S 600: Samantha
1998 Mercedes Benz SL 600: Ellen
1950 Mercury Custom: Gabriela
1971 Plymouth Hemi Cuda: Shannon
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner: Jessica
1965 Pontiac GTO: Sharon
1999 Porsche 996: Tina
2000 Porsche Boxster: Marsha
1961 Porsche Speedster: Natalie
1988 Porsche 959: Virginia
1997 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: Tanya
2000 Rolls Royce Stretch Limousine: Grace
1966 Shelby AC Cobra: Ashley
1967 Shelby Mustang GT 500: Eleanor
2000 Toyota Landcruiser: Cathy
1998 Toyota Supra Turbo: Lynn
2000 Volvo Turbo Wagon R: Lisa
 

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Old 07-04-2018 | 05:40 PM
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Thanks guys, I truly appreciate the support,
joey, I guess your just better at life than the rest of us, huh?
go **** yourself
 
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Old 07-05-2018 | 08:09 AM
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I don't name cars, but my parents did, it must skip a generation
 
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Old 07-05-2018 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DneprDave
I don't name cars, but my parents did, it must skip a generation
I never did until this one, it’s just kind of a fun thing that a number of owners, fully and vocally encouraged by MINI, do. Heck it even says to in my owners manual, lol.
I may very well be near your parents age as well....... get off my lawn!!
 
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Old 07-10-2019 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy

I think (I really hope) I’ve got it, well not the restraint thing, I’m waiting on my Schwaben scanner from ECS, it will be here Wednesday and is supposed to be able to reset it.
As to my other issue with the surging, after a couple of emails back and forth with Arric and a reminder to watch the video on wastegate adjustment, I’m pretty sure I’m making way too much boost right now and it’s the ECU trying to dump it before hitting limp mode at the boost cut-off. I used Dash Commander tonight for the boost gauge, and under 1/4 to 1/3 throttle acceleration I hit 17 PSI between 3000 & 3500 RPM. And was easily hitting 12 PSI at 2500. It goes from nothing to BOOST! Fast! I’m sure I was hitting the safety cut-off when it went into limp mode on me while testing it the other day, I also had some misfire at higher RPM yesterday (which it turns out is also an issue when running too much boost) and a code for excess boost (something like that). Go Figure! I’m an idiot! So tomorrow I will adjust the wastegate to lower the boost and hopefully not be Grumpy for a while :-)
Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
Welll, after a few things I was really struggling to figure out. Except for the airbag light, the car is FIXED! I had a couple of issues that I emailed back and forth with Arric at JMTC and after a few phone calls back and forth, he was totally able to pinpoint my issues and thanks to him, Duncan is running and driving like never before! I HAVE BOOST!!! It’s amazing! Lol.
The car is running fantastic and feels powerful and fast, and I LOVE it! Thanks to everyone here for the advice, help, and crossed fingers during the whole debacle that was dealing with MINI USA & BMW NA. I appreciate it all, and could not have completed the project without your contributions!

Now about that airbag issue! I now have my Schwaben scan tool, but cannot clear the fault, which is leading me to believe that it must still be active. I’m getting the code 93C8 related to the drivers side airbag control (I think). Does anybody know anything about this? Where is it located? And could I have done something to it when I put the front end into the service position? I’ve also discovered that my battery appears to be not long for this world, I’ve heard that a dying battery can cause strange faults and codes, I really hope that’s what this is, but I doubt they are related unfortunately, but who knows?
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Hey Grump... After reading through this thread again, I noticed you never said what was causing your surging issue, and what the fix was? Do you remember what you did to fix it?
 
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Old 07-10-2019 | 05:23 AM
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Can I find the manual online? I have a 2012 countryman all4 s.
 
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Old 07-10-2019 | 05:33 AM
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lol. re-read this for a good morning laugh. Sorry I was obnoxious. Goes with the juvenile men that own MINIs. lol I still don't and never will get naming the car.

Originally Posted by MrGrumpy

Thanks guys, I truly appreciate the support,
joey, I guess your just better at life than the rest of us, huh?
go **** yourself
 
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Old 07-10-2019 | 09:48 AM
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lol. re-read this for a good morning laugh. Sorry I was obnoxious. Goes with the juvenile men that own MINIs. lol I still don't and never will get naming the car.
Thanks dude, I appreciate the apology.
Not everyone does it, but a lot of us do.... it almost a requirement with some enthusiast clubs. And it’s just another way to personally connect with the car, unless it’s just an appliance to some.
 
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Old 07-10-2019 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by njaremka
Hey Grump... After reading through this thread again, I noticed you never said what was causing your surging issue, and what the fix was? Do you remember what you did to fix it?
Yes, it was surging because it was way over boosting. The surge, I think, was the ECU using the diverter and wastegate to try to dump boost, before the fuel-cut.
Once I got the wastegate adjustment right, it went away.
 
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Old 07-10-2019 | 10:00 AM
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The only thing that I would have done differently if I had to do it over again, would probably be a little better downpipe, even though the CNT fits (mostly), I have since installed several for Mariokart and his are just so much better!
And I would have done the tuning at the same time. The new turbo was nice and gave it small bump, but the tune really made it come alive!
 
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Old 07-13-2019 | 09:19 PM
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Anyway to get together and ask MINI USA to extend warranty for 2012 and later R60s? My 2012 MINI Countryman S ALL4 has the same problem when the check engine light turns on when driving on the highway and I did hear the sound of metal rotating at around 70mph when throttle is not pressed. I heard both 2012 and 2011 MCSes are covered under extended warranty and I have no idea if mine is also covered. Besides, what if I so not fix this problem and just make it non-S version of countryman? Also, I think turbocharger is still working anyway.
 
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Old 08-02-2019 | 05:00 PM
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I got the same problem as MrGrumpy on my 2012 R60 S ALL4 with 47k miles and I got my turbocharger replaced under California Emission Control Warranty.
 
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Old 08-22-2019 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Xiaofeng
Anyway to get together and ask MINI USA to extend warranty for 2012 and later R60s? My 2012 MINI Countryman S ALL4 has the same problem when the check engine light turns on when driving on the highway and I did hear the sound of metal rotating at around 70mph when throttle is not pressed. I heard both 2012 and 2011 MCSes are covered under extended warranty and I have no idea if mine is also covered. Besides, what if I so not fix this problem and just make it non-S version of countryman? Also, I think turbocharger is still working anyway.
The turbo will continue to function, but not hold Boost it will bleed boost and when it gets below minimum boost threshold it will trigger the CEL or until the flapper completely fails and the system sees the failure and puts you in Limp Mode until repaired
 
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Old 08-22-2019 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
Thanks dude, I appreciate the apology.
Not everyone does it, but a lot of us do.... it almost a requirement with some enthusiast clubs. And it’s just another way to personally connect with the car, unless it’s just an appliance to some.
I get it. Guess I really wanted a Porsche instead. haha
 
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Old 01-06-2021 | 05:36 AM
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well I dropped it off this morning, they said I may not hear back until Tuesday, but I’m ok with that because they gave me a shiny new 2018 Countryman S to drive until then
Dont know anything yet, except that I need a new turbo....but they sounded fairly optimistic that Mini would look out for me....we’ll see
That's how they getcha
 
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Old 07-27-2022 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
The only thing that I would have done differently if I had to do it over again, would probably be a little better downpipe, even though the CNT fits (mostly), I have since installed several for Mariokart and his are just so much better!
And I would have done the tuning at the same time. The new turbo was nice and gave it small bump, but the tune really made it come alive!
I know this is an old thread, but i was wondering how these mods affected your fuel mileage. I'm facing the same issue as you with my CEL and needing to replace the turbo. I like the fuel mileage I currently get and was wondering if you had a significant drop in fuel mileage after this
 
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Old 07-27-2022 | 08:31 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but i was wondering how these mods affected your fuel mileage. I'm facing the same issue as you with my CEL and needing to replace the turbo. I like the fuel mileage I currently get and was wondering if you had a significant drop in fuel mileage after this
Your MPG really depends on the mode you're in and your right foot functionality (LOL). The sacrifice isnt anything significant either way
 
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Old 07-27-2022 | 10:36 AM
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My turbo occasionally throws a CEL but corrects itself. 140k. Just use it till it fails
 
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Old 07-27-2022 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by malibujoey
My turbo occasionally throws a CEL but corrects itself. 140k. Just use it till it fails
I have only had this for about 5 months. It started off only coming on occasionally when pulling a hill if I forgot to downshift. It's becoming more and more frequent unfortunately. I have about 102,000 miles on it. It's just frustrating lol. I may just live with it for a while as even aftermarket turbos and install kits start at $1k
 
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Old 07-27-2022 | 10:47 AM
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Yeah it’s going. Mine isn’t that infrequent it only goes on when I try to pass some idiot and I need a lot of boost. Tear down of the front end to replace is a nightmare so there’s a lot of labor involved
 
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Old 04-24-2024 | 03:47 PM
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Started to review this thread as my daughters 2012 countryman S, with 67k just got a CEL and the 2C57 code.....car runs fine? but not good.
We took to dealer for an oil change about 2000 miles ago, they said we need a new turbo and wanted $6k to do it, I asked why does it need to be replaced and they sent a video/pic of some oil in a tube somewhere, I will try and dig up the photo. But.....man, not stoked a car with 67k miles thats had no issues needs this kinda work!
 
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Old 04-25-2024 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stiksandstones
Started to review this thread as my daughters 2012 countryman S, with 67k just got a CEL and the 2C57 code.....car runs fine? but not good.
We took to dealer for an oil change about 2000 miles ago, they said we need a new turbo and wanted $6k to do it, I asked why does it need to be replaced and they sent a video/pic of some oil in a tube somewhere, I will try and dig up the photo. But.....man, not stoked a car with 67k miles thats had no issues needs this kinda work!
You can pull the diverter valve off relatively easily. Pull it out, and check the condition of the diaphragm, if there is one. If there are tears, it can leak boost and pull that code. If the diverter valve is fine, then wiggle the wastegate linkage at the turbine housing. If its too loose, the turbo won't build boost and pull that code.
 
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Old 04-26-2024 | 08:55 AM
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Nik-I will give that a shot today! Thanks
 
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Old 04-26-2024 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by njaremka
You can pull the diverter valve off relatively easily. Pull it out, and check the condition of the diaphragm, if there is one. If there are tears, it can leak boost and pull that code. If the diverter valve is fine, then wiggle the wastegate linkage at the turbine housing. If its too loose, the turbo won't build boost and pull that code.
This part here? not that I am replacing just yet-but this is the part to unbolt and check ya?
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/min...593273#fitment
 


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